Does it matter really? I mean, clearly they are the same objects being seen over a period of time. The radar and visual confirmation, was real. I think you are just trying to find some flaw in something somewhere... if not in me. I don't care, say what you want. The evidence is in black and white. Clearly these are one of the same phenomenon and whether you like it or not, the pilots saw these UFO's do things they couldn't. They knew it, they said it.