The speed of flying saucers and blinking out phenomenon

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by river, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    So you are saying that people who do not understand the phrase "the iss travels at 14,000- 17.1 mph" have a "low level mentality?"

    "watch it fly over for at lease 3 minutes."

    Here are a few:

    "i do not see spelling error" - missing an article
    "maybe try to actually use your brain instead of running on auto pilot and not think things through" - lack of parallel construction.
    "and at times when over my area i can watch it fly over for at lease 3 minutes. " - incorrect reference. As stated the sentence reads "and at times when I am over my area I can watch it fly for at least 3 minutes."
    Clearly it did for several people. Perhaps a high school level English course would help people understand you better.
     
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  3. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    No, not to radar. Part now bold is false. My point was that golf ball or larger satellites are tracked - We normally can tell where at least what part of Earth they were launched form soon as we see them. Meteors come from deep space - very different track history and very rarely if ever* end up in earth bound orbits. I.e. look like earth satellites.

    * It is conceptual impossible for Earth alone to capture a meteor into an Earth bound orbit. Doing that requires a three body interaction or perhaps some slight air dissipation. Perhaps a meteor passing near the moon could get into an earth bound orbit. As I recall, only three good position alone fixes tell you the sun orbit parameters. Our satellites rarely are in close perigee solar orbits - because doing that - a close approach to the sun orbit, takes more energy than flying out to Pluto
     
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  5. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    - quoting Seavy Harcasm < :
    krash661, maybe me so inferior 2 ewe? Maybe i Inferior to use English Language Comprehending as "many individuals in this world understand my writing just fine" is not also?
    : > end quoting Seavy Harcasm -

    Seriously, krash661, you seriously want to "own" your above Post?

    If you, krash661, want to continue to hold to that seriously flawed mental outlook - and refuse to join in an openly honest and rational discussion on these Forums - then I have no choice but to offer the following retort!

    krash661, have you ever heard of the Southeast Asian sheepherder named Phuc, who refused to have anything other than Female Sheep in his herd?
    Everyone who knew or even heard of him- took to calling or referring to him by the same exact name!

    Phuc Ewe!
     
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  7. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    hilarious, are you serious with this ??

    what a joke.

    what you are doing ,
    is not correcting my so called wrong grammar,
    but interpreting your own thought of how i should talk with my words.

    and what i mean by low level mentalities is,
    they only care about grammar policing,
    only because they are not capable of anything else,
    including understanding writing.
    that is why they resort to grammar policing.
     
  8. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    why would it be " I am over my area ",
    when i clearly stated the iss was over my area.not me, i'm on the ground.
    i do want to apologize for one thing tho,
    i do admit i spelled least wrong.
    and what i actually stated was,
    " and at times when over my area i can watch it fly over for at lease 3 minutes. "
    comical.
     
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  9. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    what a joke this is also,
    and thanks for the coded " Phuc Ewe ", which speaks volumes.

    so, what's so called wrong with this statement besides your attempt to create something that is not due to your low level mentality?
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed. But not everything that's up there is tracked. Indeed, the things the military are most interested in are at similar altitudes and speeds but are NOT tracked (i.e. were launched 15 minutes ago and heading towards them.) Thus they are very interested at things that are at similar (not identical) speeds and altitudes.
     
  11. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    low level mentalities are the majority now days.
    it's almost the same as saying,
    stupid is the majority now days.
    so i would expect more individuals to not understand my writing than ones who do.
    which is not difficult at all,
    only to the ones who use auto pilot thinking or lack comprehension.
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No, I was answering your post. You stated:

    "I do not see spelling error,
    second the only grammar error i see , is i did not capitalize certain letters,"

    You were incorrect. However, it looks like you can not admit your errors due to your belief that you are smarter than everyone else.
     
  13. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    first, there is/was no error except the capitalization that i admitted,
    second,
    if you see me smarter, that's not my problem.
    maybe evolve your self ?
     
  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Like I said, a simple English class would explain things like parallel construction. (However since you undoubtedly know more about English composition than any teacher perhaps such an effort would be wasted.)
    It must be hard to be the only intelligent mind in a sea of low level mentality. But don't despair; remember, they laughed at Einstein too.
     
  15. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    " "maybe try to actually use your brain instead of running on auto pilot and not think things through" - lack of parallel construction. ",



    the brain has two systems.
    one is you, the other,
    is what's refereed to as auto pilot,
    which means,the brain thinks for you, and there for it is not you thinking.

    this is you interpreting my words into your own thought again.
    i never stated i was the only " intelligent mind in a sea of low level mentality ",
    i stated,
    " second,
    if you see me smarter, that's not my problem.
    maybe evolve your self ? "

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    typical..
     
  16. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    krash661, so we agree - just like all else you Post - and you said it yourself : "what a joke this is also"!!!

    I am quite not sure that if Phuc were to learn of your lack of appreciation for the nicknames of Southeast Asian herders of female sheep - he may consider your palpable disdain for any and all other Posters below even the excrement his flock leaves on the ground under them when they pass over "for at lease 3 minutes".

    krash661, I did not "coded" Phuc's name in any way - that is how it is spelled - pee aitch you see, e double you e !!!

    Also, the manner and usage of your so called version of the English Language - and the sentiments you spew with it - speaks, nay, roars volumes. I am fairly certain that no matter your own perceived level of intelligence that if you talk like you write, then no one around you cares to listen to you.
    As to your believing that "many individuals in this world understand my writing just fine"...that is simply because "many individuals in this world" prefer to ignore you and do not care to attempt any feedback or conversation with "what a joke this is also", you.


    krash661, I find it impossible to believe that a being of such massive superiority to my "low level mentality" could in any way seek knowledge from someone as "low level mentality" as you choose to describe me!?!?

    But heck, krash661, being as how it is the Holiday Season, and us "low level mentality" hate to keep Superior beings in suspense, I propose to quell your antici......................................(wait for it!)......................................pation, and will supply you with the answer prior to your asking it!

    First...at "lease" I plan to did it last week, but seeing as how I am only "low level mentality", well...like you always say...many individuals in this world understand MY writing just FINE!

    so... maybe..." second,
    if you see me smarter, that's not my problem.
    maybe evolve your self ? "

    Far from typical...but yes what a joke krash661 is also!


    P.S. krash661, you get what you give! Karma can be a harsh mistress!
     
  17. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    ahh, i see,
    you now have resorted to being pathetic.

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    typical.
     
  18. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    krash661, you get what you give!
    You chose the level of discourse - I only attempted to relate to you on your chosen level - I will NOT do it again! DO YOU COPY?

    krash661, at this point - I refuse to sink to YOUR CHOSEN PATHETIC LEVEL EVEN ONCE MORE...so...feel free to continue with...whatever those of your ilk deem...

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    typical!


    I'll leave you to your...
     
  19. Trapped Banned Banned

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    You don't seem to be getting the point.

    The Military space programs have all debris mapped out. If an object appears to be in some place, with an unusual trajectory, such as turning corners without a specific applied force, slowing down, speeding up are all indications of something other than... meteorites.

    Trust me, officials know quite well the differences between inanimate matter falling into our stratosphere than it being specifically a man-made object. Again, we know where these things are.

    Plus what do you mean ''odd trajectories.'' When I say something out of the ordinary, an unusual trajectory is something in which the object displays peculiar motion, such as turning corner, slowing or speeding up. What accounts as an odd-trajectory for you, because generally-speaking, meteorites don't do these things unless they have been effected by some external force.
     
  20. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    I said same and added some physics:
    * I.e. make a meteor have orbital parameters like ANY satellite must have.
     
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  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Then the military gets very interested. It could be an ICBM in coast phase, or a recently launched satellite, or a meteor. Since they are EXTREMELY interested in the first two they have a system in place to analyze such new objects very quickly. (Note that a mistake by such a system back in 1983 almost started a world war when the USSR detected five missiles inbound from the US. We should all be very thankful that one man - Stanislav Petrov - decided that it was a false indication and did not sound the warning. Fortunately such systems have gotten much better.)

    Well, no, we don't - that's why the military gets very interested in such objects. An unknown man-made object coming over the horizon at close to an orbital speed could start World War III, so their interest level in such objects is high.

    Close Earth approaches.

    OK. To the military, an ICBM in coast phase is not (to use your definition) exhibiting an unusual trajectory - but they are still interested in it.
     
  23. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    Yes and there is a large, easily recognized, difference in the orbit parameters between the first two, which are in earth captured or bound orbits and the meteor which is not.

    The meteor is in a solar bound orbit and most have considerable eccentricity, not near zero like Earth, so have lost a lot of potential energy (and gained an amount of equal kinetic energy, which means have well above earth escape velocity, which no satellite has.) by time they get into Earth's 1 AU or even 1.3AU from the sun. - They are moving much faster than any bound satellite.

    There are no meteors with velocity like earth. In fact the new requirement to be a "planet," which Pluto no longer is, is that a planet clears its orbit region of meteors. There may be a few space rocks that have apogee less than 1 AU which occasionally the earth "scoots by" but they would not be approaching earth so I hesitate to even call them a meteor.
     

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