The speed of flying saucers and blinking out phenomenon

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by river, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Definitely. And after a short time you can determine that, and rule out the beginning of World War III. They are very interested in making that determination quickly.
     
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  3. river

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    The propulsion would be , anti-gravity

    Where your saucer would have a self contained gravity , separate from Earths gravity
     
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  5. Trapped Banned Banned

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    Unlikely actually.

    Based on current understanding of gravity, it isn't possible to shield it. Of course, you can make the argument if another civilization was visiting us, they would have a technology far greater than ours. However, when it comes to gravity, we know some interesting details - it isn't a real force, it isn't like a technology which can switch on and off a magnetic field.

    Gravity is a product of warping spacetime, if anything, a ship may be using a type of Alcuiberre drive, but I am quite certain it isn't anti-gravitational device. Supposing they are using some kind of electromagnetic technology then at best, it may have effects that are ''like'' an antigravity device. Perhaps then, one should call it, a pseudo-antigravity device.
     
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  7. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Or perhaps one should realize that assuming there are aliens flying around earth is sort of retarded.
     
  8. Trapped Banned Banned

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    Maybe you could send a letter to the Pentagon telling them of how many taxpayers money have been wasted then on decades of investigating the phenomenon.

    Then you could send all the families of the Airforce who lost family members who went missing trying to intercept the objects in question; You can explain to them how retarded they were.
     
  9. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Any money spent was wasted.

    LOL. Everyone knows aliens didn't shoot anybody down, it was the damn Yeti's throwing icicles at the planes!

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  10. Trapped Banned Banned

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    Just keep telling yourself that. You obviously don't have a clue about the amount of painstaking time the Military have involved to bring these objects down. Or that they knew there was something really strange about these objects that the Canadian government created a top secret project, called Project Lure, a project designed to lure aliens to a landing platform.

    Or the countless Military encounters even in public places, such as the 1952 Washington UFO flap.

    You just keep telling yourself that somehow history is made up. Thankfully, I do understand that you don't even acknowledge the phenomenon or take an ounce of it seriously, so I am probably wasting my time. No convincing anyone who believes they are already convinced.
     
  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. "Extraterrestrial spaceships attacking the US military" doesn't even have ordinary evidence.
     
  12. Trapped Banned Banned

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    This must be an attempt at an intelligible conversation... lucky me.

    Actually, I will enlighten you... there is plenty ''ordinary evidence.'' The evidence at hand is that the Military have been involved in shooting these objects down, several high officers over the years have came forward explaining what their orders had been... even backed by official documents which probably would never have been seen if it wasn't for the freedom of information act.


    What more ordinary evidence does one need?

    If the Military believed in them --- soberly concerned enough to spend decades secretly interacting with the objects and yet, you seem to have some kind of inside knowledge that it's just a load of rubbish. Love to know what makes you so certain.
     
  13. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    trapped,
    i'm curious and interested as to, where you came across this information on this topic.
    i would like look at it
     
  14. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    if they had " inside knowledge" then they would not be stating what they are stating.
     
  15. Trapped Banned Banned

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    Many places. I have read the subject for many years.

    If you want official documents, you'll have to wait until I get home to sift through my photocopies of previously secret memo's.

    If is general information about the UFO phenomenon, well, I wouldn't know where to start. The phenomenon has tied with it, at least 20 incredible UFO sightings which are hard to explain away. Others involve the Military directly as mentioned before, the officials back in the 1950's where more than aware that there where objects penetrating the air defence of the United States and they wanted to know who it was because at that time, the United States was the superpower. There couldn't be technology so early in aviation history that performed the speeds recorded by some of them. They also showed resilience to anti-aircraft ammo and in later more recent cases, impervious to modern missiles.
     
  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Please post this ordinary evidence!

    ?? Not talking about orders to do something. Military personnel have been ordered to try to kill goats mentally; doesn't mean that we have people who can kill with their minds. I am talking about evidence that extraterrestrial spaceships have attacked the US military. You know, real evidence. Alien rounds recovered from damaged aircraft. Unexploded missiles with antimatter propulsion systems. Something real.

    Again, post this proof! Would be interesting to see.

    Some real evidence would be nice.

    Again, the military spent years trying to kill goats with mind control. (Actually they claimed that the DID kill goats via mind control.) I've worked with military people, on military bases, for years. I've trained them both technically and operationally.

    If you want the opinion of a US soldier on how to assemble a weapon, he's an excellent source. If you want the opinion of a US soldier on the likelihood of an unexplained phenomenon representing space alien technology, his "sober concern" is worth almost exactly zero.
     
  17. Trapped Banned Banned

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    Billvon, have you ever taken time out to actually read anything or search anything for yourself?

    I am happy to collect a number of different events, such as links to an array of different things and online memo's. But I hope you realize I won't be spamming a shit load of bandwidth just to make a point. You do have to put some effort into it as well.
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. Which is why I find UFO lore an interesting area of study - how people assign their own meanings to unexplained phenomena.

    OK.

    I did, and learned quite a bit. That research is how I arrived at my current understanding on the subject.
     
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    Then this should make a very interesting discussion when I get around to it, but I must leave at the moment. Be back soon enough.
     
  20. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    telekinesis and telepathy are very real.

    and also, this proof you are asking,
    some things exist that the public has no clue of,
    and because of the tittle " black projects "
    means, the public does not have access to such things,
    hence the public will not be able to show proof even if it is reality.
    except the small leaks that are usually deemed as " conspiracy " or " crackpot/crank " or " insane".
    but what's funny is,
    the public is so secluded in their own minds that they end up looking like a fool to those who do have access to such things,
    only because they are running their mouths with this confidence of ignorance(but do not know of their ignorance), but the reality is,
    (which is comical in most cases) they are wrong and have no clue of.

    what if i told you the public is at lease 40 years behind in science and technology.
    and purposely being kept from this.
     
  21. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    ok, awesome,
    but what was your security clearance ?
     
  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Well, I will agree that they are as real as extraterrestrial UFO's.

    I'd say you've been watching too many X-files.

    If I ever interview with you for a job, my clearance level will be on my resume.
     
  23. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    my point exactly.
    and i would put big money(bet) that your clearance(if any at all) is only restricted.
    i'm not going to waste anymore thought's and time with you.
     

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