The Trump Presidency

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  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    This coming from the greatest "Commander in Chief", ever !!! ................

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  3. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    "A floating moral compass" is a term used to describe someone whose morality depends on the situation only. Having no particular set of moral principles to anchor morality except any thing that serves the self in moment.
    No regard for memories of moral contradiction or moral hypocrisy, nor any concern for the consequences of such a state... ( re: pathological liars)
    There fore, one moment the military are the best the next they are the worst.. or one moment he loves women then the next he doesn't and so on...
    The worst part is people like Vociferous support this sort of floating moral opportunism and allow it to take positions of power.
     
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  5. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    4 years...??
    oh don't forget his amazing performance in North Korea's and Iranian Nuke agenda...and how he has messed up all those other trade treaties you seem to wish to ignore...
    not to mention how he has dis-empowered the USA voice in the UN and WHO.
    so in 4 years he has managed to do the MAGA big time hey?
    oh also do not forget his rather convenient long term relationship with Netanyahu and ME real estate...
     
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  7. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    OK, lets have a look at the facts.

    Barak Obama,

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    https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/

    Donald Trump

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    Trump had the unique advantage of taking office in the midst of a great recovery from the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression
     
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  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, like people who say; "you're not gonna force me to buy health insurance", but when they need to go to the hospital they will stick the Hospital for the bill and the tax payer for the Health Care expense.

    Worst of it is that they'll be pleased to stick it to the governement that is "taxing us to death".
    Think of the mind-set of this kind of public parasite.
     
  9. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    And since every mailbox is also a collection box, that's like saying every business has two wheelchair ramps and we're going to remove the one that's used less. Doesn't affect access at all.
    First: Why would a postal carrier stop at a house that doesn't have any incoming or outgoing mail? Again, you don't seem to be making any point at all.
    Second: It's not an either/or situation. All mailboxes are already collection boxes. Collection boxes only exist for convenience, where traffic and volume warrant their use. Low volume does not, because that means people in the area are simply using mailboxes instead. And routes go by every mailbox anyway, whether they are getting or receiving any mail that day. And guess what, if nothing else, there is always a local post office. Again, you have no point.

    No, it's coming from anonymous, and thus unverifiable, sources. Why would former officials not go on record? It's not like they would lose their jobs.

    Too bad you couldn't manage to read that the Trump chart "REFLECTS SUBSTANTIAL EFFECTS OF THE COVID-19 EMERGENCY".
    And if you think the economic gains were largely Obama's doing, would you equally say the poor race relations were also his doing, seeing as Ferguson, Baltimore, etc. racial riots began on his watch?

    No, conservatives are all for relatively cheap catastrophic health insurance, that would cover emergency care, which is the kind people skip out on paying.
    For the bills that go unpaid, hospitals can try to compensate by charging other patients more. But that doesn’t happen as much as many people – including policymakers -- think.
    ...
    The majority of hospitals are non-profits and are exempt from federal, state and local taxes if they provide a community benefit, such as charitable care. Hospitals also receive federal funding to offset some of the costs of treating the poor.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...eone-without-insurance-shows-up-er/445756001/
    So your arguments about the USPS being non-profit and providing a community benefit would apply doubly to hospitals, because we're talking about saving lives here. So you're either a hypocrite or heartless.

    Oh, you mean a "public parasite" like the USPS, that needs to be bailed out for billions every year? 9_9


    No, I'm just not duped by anonymous sources, which have proven unreliable in the past.

    The US and UN has been at a stalemate with NK for decades. It was worth at least trying other tactics.
    Trump: US demands restoration of UN sanctions against Iran
    The administration’s insistence on snapping back international sanctions against Iran sets the stage for a contentious dispute. It’s possible that the U.S. call will be ignored by other U.N. members — an outcome that could call into question the U.N. Security Council’s ability to enforce its own legally binding decisions.
    https://apnews.com/5a480ffdf131af14e001943693ca05b8
    Trump administration struggles to rally international support for new Iran sanctions
    The Trump administration notified the United Nations on Thursday that the U.S. will — on its own — reinstate numerous sanctions to punish Iran after failing to rally international support to extend an arms embargo on the Islamic Republic.
    https://www.latimes.com/politics/st...-iran-sanctions-after-failing-on-arms-embargo
    That's the UN standing in the way of keeping Iran from acquiring new arms. That sounds like that would make the UN complicit in Iran becoming a nuclear power.

    Trump didn't mess up any needed trade deals, and Russia and China veto power in the UN long since made it impotent. Netanyahu has likely been a factor in the Israeli, UAE, Serbia, and Kosovo peace deals, and like Trump in the US, it seems his political opponents are largely trying the same tactics. Those haven't worked out so well here. "ME real estate"?
     
  10. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Google "Trump Heights" for starters
     
  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    And how would you know, who has outgoing mail unless they were delivering mail?
    I see, the mailman stops at every mailbox to check if there is outgoing mail?
    Thank, you just made my point for me. There is always the post office 30 miles from where I live and no collection boxes in between. That is no convenience, that's a hardship and that is against the law.
     
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  12. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    And? Trump has done more for Israel and its security than any President in decades. Why shouldn't they honor him?


    Because depending on the type of mailbox, it's indicated with a raised flag, mail pinned to the outside (visible from the curb), or in the case of apartments, has a single collection box for the entire building/complex. How young are you that you don't already know this very basic stuff? Well, it has been reported that many young adults don't know how to find the post office, can't change a tire, etc..

    As I just said, there are ways to indicate mail needs to be picked up. Ways that the mail carrier can see just passing by on their normal route.

    Again there is no such thing as "no collection boxes" where there are mailboxes, which serve the same purpose. The depth of your ignorance continues to amaze.
     
  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    You are the hypocrite. I am FOR Universal Healthcare just as I am FOR Universal Postal Service, you are not.
     
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  15. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    And that would be faster than stopping by a single mail collection box, every couple of miles and only have to worry about prompt mail delivery and opportunistic pick-up as an added value?
    I don't think you'd make a good civil engineer.

    And if you think that Trump's motive for tearing down bulk "collection boxes" was to save the tax payers from paying ten cents too much for dependable Universal mail service, then you are more naive than you even present yourself to be.
     
  16. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    lol
    well said...
    MAGA should have been MIGA
     
  17. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    And Obama's numbers record the effects of the serious international flu emergency that hit while he was in office - the full effects, not just the first couple of months.
    The difference in the way Trump handles such things is one of the reasons his numbers suck.
    No. That would be bizarrely stupid.
    (Probably that requires explanation in your case - a few factors:
    The race relations in those cities did not begin on Obama's watch.
    Unlike their responsibility for executive management of many relevant factors involving the US economy, a US President is not officially responsible for the behaviors of city police forces, or city governments in general.
    The success of the Republican efforts to prevent Obama from doing his job in race-related matters (such as appointing better judges, etc) is also well known. Nobody prevents Republicans from fulfilling their responsibilities.

    And so forth.

    In short, one doubts you really meant to suggest comparing Obama's handling of race riots with Trump's handling of race riots, or police behavior as encouraged and rewarded by Obama and Trump (children in cages will come up, as will the military influence, Posse Comitatus, quasi-deputized teenagers with rifles shooting people after being encouraged by the police, the suspension of civil rights anywhere near a national border, the use of gas and clubs and rubber bullets on peaceful demonstrators, public asphyxiation and beating of handcuffed people by uniformed police, that kind of stuff).
    It's a bizarre bit of nonsense you posted there, in short. Whatever were you trying to say?
     
  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    He is trying to convince us that Trump is a sane person.
     
  19. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    ...and the loser is:
    The people of the USA!
     
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  20. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    I've seen gradeschool playground disputes that had more decorum.
     
  21. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Just as well the local kids sandpit was ruled out as the venue

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  22. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Do you remember women's mud wrestling?
     
  23. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Ya

    Are you suggesting Biden and Trump re-create a male version?

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