The Value of nothing is everything

No. Ok, let's call an apple a fruit and an orange a fruit. I am holding an apple and an orange. I have three fruits. Why doesn't this happen? Maybe because God isn't all powerful. If he is all powerful, why didn't he choose this system?

Am I the only one that gets this question?

Looking at the post about "1" after this one, it is evident to me you still do not understand what I am talking about. I know "1" is just a symbol and "3" is, too. But you know what one "looks like" and you know what three "looks like" (you got a sense about it). The point I made is that you said "1" is an axiom, which it isn't. It's just a definition, a symbol to respresent "oneness."

Anyway you do not get a Furby because you didn't show me that "1" is true. It's like I walk up to you at random and say: "Arizona, true or false?"

 

Log in or Sign up to hide all adverts.

Forgot too...

Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

I need a fatty... :m:

 

Log in or Sign up to hide all adverts.

No, if God is all-powerful, 1+1=3 doesn't imply anything else must imply. Remember, God is all-powerful, he can make 1+1=3, yet everything else in the world functions just as it does now. Remember, he is ALL-POWERFUL. He can make the illogical happen. If you do not agree with this, than it doesn't make sense to believe he is omnipotent.

 

Log in or Sign up to hide all adverts.

You will reply, correct?

 

Just like I said above. That's possible (for God, at least).

Is that system better?

I don't think you get it...

The concept of 1 is an axiom. I think nobody can dispute this...

 

I was talking with Regulus...

 

Oh, my mind is all over tonight.

 

Ok, so you believe he is onmipotent, all-powerful.

Why not? To an all-powerful god, there is no difference between 1+1=2 and 1+1=3. They can all work. I want to know why this is the system the universe is built upon. As I have stated, God, being the all-powerful being that he is, could have made this EXCACT same universe with the fact that 1+1=3 and everything still functions as it does. But WHY did he not?

What do I not get about what?

According to answers.com:

axiom - A self-evident or universally recognized truth.

How is 1 true? First you told me 1 is an axiom, then you told me 1 just a symbol, and now you tell me 1 is an axiom. Which is it?

 

Your right. I agree.

Why 1+1=2 instead of 3 I cannot answer, but it still does not limit it, it doesn't mean it can't, it just didn't for this Universe. If it's Omnipotent then it can. There's no doubt that it couldn't.

 

As long as we all see that point, I still want to know what makes the current system better than the infinite number of other possibilities. It's all the same to an all-powerful being.

 

Maybe becuz the other possibilities are just the same. And another Universe occupies this law Absane...

If another Universe did occupy it wouldn't duplicating it prove ignsignificant? Then again if it's the same what's the difference?

Jeeze.... wow.... you really asked a good question Absane.....

Thankyou, it's thought provoking. Plus... NOW ITS GOING TO BOTHER ME FOR THE REST OF THE NIGHT LOL

Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

 

Why must they be the same? They could be, but if God is to create multiple universes, why not make them different? Perhaps it is an experiement? Create multiple universes and perhaps one logical law is different but all else is the same, like a mirror copy. He would do this to see what happens. But why would he want to do this? I suppose if he is all-powerful, he could just make himself all-knowing and know immediately. Maybe he does it this way so their are beings to worship him.

My brain is getting tired. Funny thing is, I will not be thinking about this when I go to sleep.

Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

 

Well.... I don't think an Omnipotent being needs to be worshipped, otherwise it seeks approval.

I really don't know Absane.

You've really brought a good question to the table.

I'll think about it and see if I can come up with a good answer. Jeeze, this is going to bother me. Thanx alot Absane lol. Now I just can't get tha tout of my mind

Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

. and as for you TruthSeeker. Fatty's are bad for you

Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

I for one don't do any drugs, drink, or smoke. Be mindful of your health TS

Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

 

Huuumm... for the same reason He did this one!

Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

Maybe He also created other universes where this is the standard!

Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

Symbols are relative, concepts are absolute.

Yes, the meaning of 1 is self-evident and universally recognized...

What? I never told you 1 is just a symbol. I said "1" is just a symbol. The "appearance" of it. The meaning, however, is not a symbol.

You seem confused...

 

yes...

I used not to as well. But with enough discipline everything is fine. 1 glass of red wine per week is actually pretty good for your health. I don't smoke. And drugs are not my thing either...

Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

 

I give up.

 

Value is subjective. To some people, your value is nothing. To others, - well, to others it might be less than nothing.

 

Why not create two definitions of "value?" Real value and subjective value? Any perceived overlap of the two is actually just real value.

 

All value is perceived. The universe doesn't value anything. We do.

There's no "real value"...

 

Atoms do not value stability of electrical charge? Earth doesn't value the sun for energy?

You know we can define real value.