Mosheh Thezion: Whereas you are right that there exists no other creature on this planet that makes suicide an art such as we human beings, many animals exhibit behaviour which sacrifices their individual lives, which is as suicidal in its end result as anything else, is it not? Mother's sacrificing themselves for their children, soldiers for the queen, et cetera, et cetera. Moreover, elephants have been known to also feel such potent grief as to refuse food and to essentially kill themselves. And oh, I have no intent on killing myself. At least not until I can match Nero's, "What an artist this world loses in me!" That, my good man, was a death for the ages.
both the mother and the solider... would prefer to kill.. rather than die. suicidal people... dont kill themselves in defense against possible death. -MT
Mosheh Thezion: But oftentimes that struggle comes at the acceptance of a greater likelyhood of death which would not befall them should they abandon their aims. For instance, if the mother cougaress left her cubs to be devouered by a hungry bear, rather than fought it until it was torn apart, the chance of life would almost be assured. Does not this willingness, then, to accept such a high possibility of death, demonstrate that life cannot propel truly be so engrained as an object of all our wills?
