There are no atheists in foxholes.

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by desi, Oct 25, 2007.

  1. Bradley364 DIG HARD! Registered Senior Member

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    -thinks deeply about your comment- Good point, I guess i meant the morally correct soldiers.

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  3. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    Disagree, strongly.
    If there were a 12 step program for religion I'd be on a 45 year pin. And that includes a year in a real unpleasant place.
    xians like to spout that statement like a mantra. My stock answer,,"Have you ever been in a foxhole?"
     
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  5. Ender Registered Senior Member

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    Soon I will be an atheist in a foxhole. So I must disagree.
     
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  7. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    James Morrow once said:
    “"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes”.
     
  8. Grantywanty Registered Senior Member

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    Wonderfully put!
    (and this is coming from a kind of theist)
    And even Jesus on the cross seemed to be doubting God: why hast thou forsaken me.
    It seems the foxholes can have many effects.
     
  9. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    He is a self-proclaimed atheist.
    He attacks elements of atheism - such as those who have the belief that God does not exist - but he is an atheist in that he lacks a belief in the existence of God.
    But this is off topic somewhat!

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  10. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    The one time I got shot I shouted 'FUCK!'.

    Doesn't mean I believe in a god called 'FUCK' however.
     
  11. Grantywanty Registered Senior Member

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    I meant me, not him. But interesting to hear about him nonetheless.
     
  12. Grantywanty Registered Senior Member

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    No, of course not. But this is extreme at the other end. Certainly some people turn to God when they are scared they will die and some stick with it.
     
  13. greenberg until the end of the world Registered Senior Member

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    ... although when people turn to God in such cases, it can also be in a negative way, such as "God, why are you letting this terrible thing happen to me?! Damn you, God!"
     
  14. Grantywanty Registered Senior Member

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    Of course. And I am not sure how I feel about the ones who pray and are saved adn think that God saved them and stay faithful. I find that rather ooky. Just as I find people saying that it was God's grace that let them save them in the airplane crash - couldn't their cab have broken down and they missed the plane? or even more important what are you saying about the other people on the plane?

    I just felt he had a need to make it seem like there was no genuine reaching out for God or somethign in times of great need. Like it was all a kind neurological reaction like when the doctor hits our knees.

    I don't like the ways theists and athiests tend to scurry over to black and white interpretations of such things.
     

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