Baldeee, Consider this claim of God's (fiction/non fiction makes no difference). "I am the source of all spiritual and material worlds. Everything emanates from Me" When you claim "no evidence of God", does that notion include no evidence of God's claim? If it does can you explain it? If it doesn't how can you be sure there is no evidence of God, if your claim does not include the notion of God's claim? It's not pleading, it is necessary to prepare oneself to accept notions that seem illogical, so that we can comprehend what is being said. I didn't say it requires fallacious logic, regarding the reasonable assumption, or the above claim, one has to use logic differently. Perhaps I should have worded it thus (my bad) ''one has to be prepared to apply logic differently. One reason I gave for this was the oneness of God, which is the essence of both, the reasonable assumption, and the above claim. This directly opposes the duality we are accustomed to. A completely different reality require a different set of logical principles. I didn't say God was illogical, and I didn't say one can be illogical when looking for evidence of God, neither am I arguing for the legitimacy of logical fallacies. jan.