Trans vs feminists: Are Trans women women?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Mrs.Lucysnow, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    You propose segregating everyone to individual stalls, which do not yet exist everywhere. How about just treating trans people as people? You know, like the goal of desegregation.
     
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  3. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    How am I not treating transpeople like people?
     
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  5. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Just let them do what they want, bathroom-wise.
     
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  7. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    and they can! The problem is these other people that say they can't go into THEIR restrooms, well then make all the restrooms unisex, now they are everyone's restrooms.
     
  8. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Fuck those people. They are segregationists who should not be appeased.
     
  9. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    How are they appeased by taking way away "their" restrooms?
     
  10. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Because instead of changing attitutes, you want to change physical infrastructure. That's what they want, not to change their bigoted attitudes one bit.
     
  11. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    How do you change their bigoted attitude?
     
  12. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    I don't care.
     
  13. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Well then you don't care what I recommend then? My recommendation is to make all restrooms unisex, then the bigots got nothing to protect and will eventually get over themselves.
     
  14. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Bigots are irrelevant. They will eventually die of old age.
     
  15. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    New bigots will replace them, worse as morality (hopefully) gets better what was once normal will be seen as evil. So for example, a century from now anyone that ate meat will be seen as evil as we see slavers of two centuries ago. Anyone that proclaimed a sexual identity will be seen as a bigot and backwards, and anyone that preferred to live in a human body will be seen as willfully ignorant and simple minded (literally). In short even the most virtuous of today's people are the bigots of tomorrow.

    Anyways in the future people will look back and say "can you believe they use to have restrooms separated by sex?" and then they will throw their heads back and laugh.
     
  16. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Nonsense.
     
  17. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Your just being contrarian at this point.
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Great idea! We can continue that. I guess that's why Clinton won.
     
  19. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    And you are inventing fantasies about morality.
     
  20. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    So the slavery 200 years ago is seen as good thing now? how about the feudalism of 600 years ago, the god given rights of lords and royalty?
     
  21. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    People knew slavery was wrong even then.
     
  22. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Well, to the one, what does history say about feudalism in more recent centuries? To the other, what is the approximate shape and size of the American feudal nationalist movement?

    #feudalpride
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    The irony is that most of the labor involved in making the US great, was performed by slaves. The railroads is but one example.
    This is why Michelle Obama said that she finally got to live in the house her slave ancestors built.

    The fact remains that the cost of labor is always the greatest drawback in construction. This of course, is why robotic mechanisms are slowly replacing human labor, especially in routine tasks.

    This is also the problem in converting to solar energy. It costs lots of money to build solar panels, but once installed, energy becomes very cheap. No more drilling, fracking, logging, transportation costs for a continued supply of energy to power our society. The sun is our ultimate slave, working and producing energy completely free of charge. Ironic that except for humans, all other life on earth has learned to use solar energy for growth and reproduction.

    Well there are life forms that don't use the sun, but use Black Smokers for their energy, but then that's free also.

    As to the OP topic.; IMO trans women have high levels of testosterone, much like males, but this chemical structure (mental identification) is housed in the wrong body, similar to trans males, who mentally and chemically identify with women, but are trapped in the wrong body.
     
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