Trump Saves the World!

Discussion in 'Business & Economics' started by Carcano, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    That is why we need an alternative to gasoline. And that competing fuel is natual gas. You could solve the nations energy and job problems almost overnight by requiring gasoline stations sell natural gas products in bulk just like they do today for gasoline by a date certain.
     
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  3. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed, Trump wants to pursue domestic natural gas expansion (more pipelines), and more domestic drilling in currently restricted areas.

    I would love to see heavy trucks and buses required to convert.
     
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  5. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Me too.
     
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  7. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Personally, I dont care if Obama was born on Mars.:bugeye:

    In fact, I wish he was from Mars...so we could repatriate him immediately.

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  8. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I agree with you.
     
  9. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

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    Heard him interviewed on CNN. The guy is nuttier than I thought. Talking about how we shouldn't have gone into Libya unless we were going to get the oil. Talking about going BACK into Iraq to GET the oil.

    I understand he's a businessman, and that's fine. It's all about profit. But hell if I ever want him as a president, making policy decisions.
     
  10. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    If that were the case, he would still be eligible for the presidency of the United States because his mother was a citizen.

    Fuck Trump, and fuck Huckabee while we are at it. Racist motherfuckers.
     
  11. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    So then Iran goes into Iraq after the American troops are pulled out and they take control? That means all the money and lives America and other nations have lost there were in vain. Do you think that is a good outcome to happen or that America just stays there and takes control of the oil instead of Iran?
     
  12. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I wouldn't go that far about them but I would say that Trump does have the right to ask about the birth certificate just as anyone should. If there's no actually birth certificate then how is it Obama can verify he was actually born there? I see that a few people claim to have known him as a child but there's no actual record of his birth from a hospital or newspaper on that day or even in that year about his birth but there are many others that do have records and newspaper articles providing everyone as the exact time of their birth back then. So if all of those others have been given birth certificates and or newspaper articles about the day of their birth why wasn't Obama? It is a very legitimate question that many people are asking about.
     
  13. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

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    1) that's one reason to not leave them high and dry with no defenses. It's just a shame that we had to shock an awe what defenses they had into dust to find those WMDs....oh, wait...

    2) It's not our oil to take.
     
  14. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Let's see, America started the war, America won that war, therefore it would seem natural that America should reap the benifits of what it accomplished or then what in the world is the reason for war? I always thought that when anyone wins a war they are entitled to something for their efforts or do you think that isn't so?
     
  15. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

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    That sounds like Trump.

    I guess it depends on why they went into war in the first place.
     
  16. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Again, what is the outcome of war supposed to be? Just pack up and leave with empty hands and thousands of dead men and women and trillions of dollars spent?
     
  17. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

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    That's a hard question to answer, isn't it, because there were a lot of reasons we went into Iraq, some not very honest, some justifiable but made after the fact to try and make it seem like a good thing.
     
  18. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    Before the Iraq war France (mainly Total) controlled the oil extraction and Russian companies controlled the oil field services contracts.

    Don't you remember how opposed to the War both Russia and France were? Dick Cheney did GWB's thinking and wanted those oil service contracts for Halliburton. (The war achieved that.) Recall how US public was induced to anti-France rage? Pouring supplied free French wine into the gutters of NYC before carefully staged TV cameras, etc.

    Post war, Total lost all its contracts, mainly to US based oil companies, but later the new Iraqi government decided to put the oil fields up for bids -China bid highest and got several, especially the most productive one in Southern Iraq, not too far from the port with distribution systems still intact.

    Private security firm, Black Water, (whose owner was a major contributor to Bush's campagns) collected officially many millions (and a plane load of money that just "disappeared"); but after they shot and killed more than a dozen Iraqis, who were just standing on a corner, they finally lost their contract, which had been just grated to them without bid.

    France was not even allowed to bid on the lucrative reconstruction contracts. That was especially destructive to the Iraqi telephone system. France had built it all, as part of the oil deal with Total. Only France had the parts needed (to be compatible with the system) for the repair. Thus, the telephones did not work in Baghdad for more than two years.

    All in all, the war Cheney persuaded Bush to start was a great success, for Halliburton, Bush's supporters and US based oil companies, if not for America (and certainly not for France or Russia). Cheney's already generous bonuses as former CEO of Halliburton were probably increased, but I am just speculating, as the facts are not available.
     
  19. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Now here is the rub, President Obama does have a birth certificate issue by the State of Hawaii. The very same birth certificate that Hawaii issues to everyone born in Hawaii. And President Obama has published it and it has been shown many times in many places.

    Birthers want a birth certificate from Obama and the State of Hawaii that the State of Hawaii does not give to any person born in the State of Hawaii.
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-says-people-who-went-school-obama-nev/

    And there were birth announcements in local newspapers. Even some birthers admit to that. And their response is well the announcements don't indicate that he was naturally born. Now how many birth announcements indicate "natural born" status?

    This whole issue is just crazy right wing nonsense that has come to be emblematic of Republican/Tea Party politics.
     
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  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Not that it even matters where Obama was born. No one is doubting the citizenship of his mother, and children of citizens are citizens.
     
  21. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Others born in Hawaii the same year as Obama have come forward with the original LONG FORM certificates that Obama refuses to reveal.

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347

    But again, I dont care where he was born, and Trump wont get anywhere running with this issue.

    I want to see a Trump candidacy, but not a Trump presidency.

    1. He claims to be the biggest war hawk among all politicians, at a time when America simply cant afford any more wars...nevermind the ethical issues.

    2. He wants less financial regulation, and a perpetuation of the casino gulag economy, which has wrecked so much havoc and chaos over the last decades following the dismantling of the Glass Steagle act by Clinton...among other things.

    I say this as someone who lives in Canada, with strict banking regulation, the most stable banks in the world, and a wonderful universal healthcare system.
     
  22. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Whether you're applying for a driver's license or trying to obtain a passport for travel, there are certain documents that you must possess. A birth certificate, which is certified by the Office of Vital Statistics, is typically one of them, but don't confuse it with a certificate of live birth, which was the document submitted by the hospital.

    Birth Certificate
    The birth certificate, or long form, is the result of the original certificate of live birth prepared by the hospital in which the baby was born. It includes the baby's name, the names of the parents, the doctors names, the name of the hospital, the sex and date of birth. The information on the long form is taken and entered into a database that produces a certification of live birth, which is what can be produced if the original birth certificate is lost.


    Certificate of Live Birth
    The certificate of live birth is the original document that is completed by the hospital staff after the baby was born alive. It contains the names of the parents, their education and race, medical and health information about the pregnancy and the delivery, and also the information on the newborn, such as the Apgar score. The certificate of live birth, which is certified by a hospital attendant, is then sent to the Office of Vital Statistics to produce the birth certificate.
     
  23. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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