UFO; Friend or Foe?

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by HawkI, Oct 12, 2020.

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UFO; Friend or Foe?

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  1. river

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    Most is the Key Word here . Most not ALL .
     
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    ISN'T THAT WHAT i JUST SAID RIVER?
    Here again river.....most end up being explained by very natural mundane means...a handful remain Unidentified, not piloted by some extra terrestrial being, just plain old U-N-I-D-E-N-T-I-F-I-E-D. Like the UFO I once saw...

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    Understand????
     
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  5. river

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    The Handful of Unidentified have sure become a handful .
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    No not really...just unidentified. no repercussions, kidnappings or anal probing that I know of.......more likely, atmospheric disturbances, illusions, cloud formations, trickery or similar, sprites, or even, something even more mundane.
    The over-riding issue that you lack the intestinal fortitude to admit, is that they are just unknown, and unidentified.
     
  8. HawkI Registered Senior Member

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    I think I've become a Troll. The lines between fact and fiction have blurred in my Head.
     
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  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Well your gullibility at least is the problem. We tell little children about Santa Claus and the Easter bunny, to add awe and wonder to their lives...in time most grow out of that and understand that they are just fairy tales.
    The thing is that most cosmologists accept the fact that extra terrestrial life should exist somewhere...the near infinite extent and content of the universe, along with the stuff of life being everywhere we look, supports that belief.
    But at the same time, those same scientists know and understand that at this time, we do not have any convincing evidence for any such life.
    The gullible, [like river and MR] automatically assume that any unexplained UFO is of Alien origin. Facts are, its just unidentified.
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe, but so what?

    There are millions of unidentified fossilized bones in storage all over the world, yet no one decides 'Hey, all these bones are not identified. They must all be from the same cause - unicorns!'

    There are millions of unidentified species in jungles all over the world, yet no one decides 'Hey, all these beetles are not identified. They must all be from the same place - Mars!'

    There are millions of unidentified viruses all over the world, yet no one decides 'Hey, all these viruses are not identified. They must all be from the same source: God!'

    There are millions of stars in the sky with mysterious properties that have yet to be explained, yet no one decides "Hey those stars are weird. They must must all be the same thing - spaceships!"

    'Unidentified' does not mean 'unEarthly'; it simply means we still have a lot of the natural world to explore.
     
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  11. river

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    You know you sound irrational .
     
  12. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    There's no doubt that, to you, science == irrational.

    That's why you've been perma-banned from the science forums.
     
  13. river

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    There is no doubt that this perception of me by you and others is wrong . Science is not beholden to some Absolute Theory . You are Wrong .

    If True , Unfortunate .
     
  14. river

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    by Dave from post#89

    There is no doubt that this perception of me by you and others is wrong . Science is not beholden to some Absolute Theory . You are Wrong .

    You are wrong . Knowledge matters .

    My Scientific knowledge differs from yours .
     
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  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Coming from someone who did not even know the Moon rotates...that's not a mistake, that is simply ignorance.
    Coming from someone who claimed an atomic war on Mars between Alien species. That's not a mistake, that is simply child like gullibility.

    No one has ever said it did. But Science progresses on the back of improved experiments and further observations, that are researched with science's best estimates of a particular discipline. The more a scientific theory continues to align with observational data, the more certain it becomes.eg: The BB, SR/GR, The theory of the evolution of life.
    Science certainly is not done nor dictated to by ignorant anti science frauds and and trolls.
    Dave has the knowledge. It is in the sciences and reputable scientific links.
    Ignorance couples with delusions of grandeur is all you have and that fact is well recognised.

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  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Right. And the rest will eventually be explained to have a simple physical explanation - as every other one has been.
     
  17. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    When will we be granted this view of your scientific knowledge? So far, what we've seen from you is neither science or knowledge.
     
  18. Q-reeus Valued Senior Member

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    Really? So detail the 'simple physical explanations' for both the multiple incidents involving the 2004 West coast Nimitz carrier group, and 2014-2015 East coast Roosevelt carrier group. If you actually think Mick West has debunked those, explain why the Navy continues to classify the UAPs encountered as real but unknown. And why not one of the aircrew or shipborne or AWACS radar operators involved in those multiple encounters think there is a mundane explanation.
     
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  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think you read what billvon said. He said:
    "...will eventually be explained to have a simple physical explanation..."

    They're entitled to their opinions and to think what they like.
     
  20. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Like I said, we don't know yet. They will eventually be explained via simple physical explanations - as every other one has been.

    Remember the Tunguska Blast? That was claimed to be aliens for a long time. Turns out it was just a meteor. The fact that they couldn't explain it for decades did not mean it was aliens.
    Ever hear about the six alien spacecraft found in England in 1967? The government investigated; even took one to the Atomic Weapons Establishment at Aldermaston to be studied. They were a college hoax.

    Etc etc.

    Imagine you were a pathologist and regularly did autopsies. You do thousands over the years. Then a new cadaver comes in for an autopsy. What's more likely? That you will do that autopsy and find the usual viscera, along with perhaps a pathology - or that it is full of extraterrestrial creatures masquerading in a human suit?
     
  21. river

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    OH Please . Non-sense thinking .
     
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  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I'm glad you think so.
     
  23. river

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    From post#97

    Good .
     

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