UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by Magical Realist, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Again, MR couldn't stand the heat, so he's off looking for the next frying pan. This is like falling onto a barbecue grid when you're drunk!
     
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  3. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    This thread as been through all that. Alcohol and/or drugs and/or mental illness can make people "see" all sorts of things in great detail just as if they were really there. The bottom line is that you choose to believe he really saw what you wish he had seen.

    Never trust an eyewitness account.
     
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  5. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I think the challenge with many of these alleged UFO sightings is the lone witness, out in the middle of nowhere, with evidence that could point to other things. That seems to be the common theme. I think Fuhr’s testimony seems genuine, in describing how he was thinking of leaving, his apparent terror, and the pressed “grass circles.” But, it’s not enough to say that what he witnessed was actually what he said he witnessed.

    His story sounds like he saw space alien crafts, and my skepticism with these stories is that if alien life exists, it’s unlikely they are able to visit Earth.
     
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  7. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I’ll keep you informed!

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    It’s funny you mention this because I’ve read that people who have witnessed these UAP’s are simply too awe-struck to grab their phones. Okay.

    But…have you ever taken a pic of the moon on your phone? One night here recently, the sky was really clear, and the moon was so bright. I took a pic, and it looked like a blurry UFO. I was so disappointed. My point being, iphone pics often times, don’t turn out that great.
     
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  9. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I went for a run today and during one of my breaks, I spent some time looking up at all the clouds moving, turning into different shapes. It's always mesmerizing to me, and a reminder of how small we are. No UFO's though, but there's still so much wonder to take in.

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  10. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    We trust eyewitness accounts in news stories, history, criminal trials, and everyday interactions. I think never trusting eyewitness accounts is a bit extreme. People rarely experience halllucinations of what is right in front of them for 30 minutes.
     
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  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    1. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. School shootings on the news aren't exactly extraordinary. Nor are crocodiles on golf greens.

    2. Eyewitness accounts in news, history and trials don't tend to connote the existence of things heretofore wholly un-existented, such as alien civilizations. If they did, eyewitness accounts would be deemed insufficient without evidential corroboration.

    As always, you are welcome to set the naivete bar as low as you personally wish. I don't see a reason for you to object to the rest of us setting it at a level more in line with objective analysis.
     
  12. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Eyewitness accounts definitely include ufos, of which thousands have been witnessed for decades. Going on that, the plausibility that they exist and are seen is quite high.
     
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  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. There's no "they" until there's a "they".
     
  14. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    There is a "they" of advanced craft that display flight behavior beyond anything known to mankind. Hence they all fall into the category of UAPs or UFOs.
     
  15. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    How do you Iphone pics generally turn out when you use it during the daytime?

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  16. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I find it strange reading some of the ads for mobile phones

    The ads make I big deal about having 5 cameras with auto focus. Not much about the clarity of the speakers

    Wonder if the opposite had happened. Buy our latest camera. It comes with a fully working mobile phone

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  17. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Therein lies the problem. We are great at pattern recognition. We can distinguish many different faces, we also see faces in clouds and boogiemen in the trees. We tend to make more of this pattern recognition than needed in many cases.

    People seem to have a camera when the object is far away and could be an optical artifact and never seem to have a camera when it's a spaceship that they went in or looked into.

    To my knowledge, there is not one close-up picture of a "flying saucer" shaped craft. It's rare that such an object is seen close-up by an educated person and even rarer than it appears in a city with a lot of people around.

    It's more common that it's a single guy, at night, on a farm in the middle of nowhere. No astronomer has ever seen a UFO, no pictures exist where one would have to say "that's an aircraft that we just can't identify" other than some blurry movement on radar or visually for a few seconds.

    The record isn't looking good is it?

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  18. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    This is the general result of recording a ufo with a smart phone. The targets are so tiny they could be anything. Mylar balloons? Chinese lanterns? Son of a dick! lol

     
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  19. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly...
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No there isn't.
     
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  21. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Well, actually…when I’ve taken pics of the sun, clouds, the moon at night, fireworks against the night sky…or anything “sky related,” the pics look nothing like the real thing. They’re usually just blah and sometimes blurry. I remember taking pics of the harvest moon last year and it looked like a semi-bright circle with zero detail.

    Now, pics of people, animals, trees, the ocean, etc…those pics turn out great, much better detail and not at all blurry. Obviously, I’m closer in proximity to these things than the sun and moon, so capturing detail is easier, but still.

    I’m assuming UFO’s will look blah as well in iPhone pics, and maybe mistaken for a blurry moon, so perhaps we shouldn’t dismiss these UAP claims so quickly.

    Not really serious. Maybe a little serious.
     
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  22. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    The things is, there is no reason for UFO's to only appear at night so when a farmer sees a UFO in his field in the daytime, that should result in a great picture, should it not?

    We're never going to put the UFO issue to rest as long at blurry blobs at night are all we get but why should all we get be blurry blobs at night if there are really UFOs?
     
  23. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Agree.

    The tic tac video while poor quality, is probably the most convincing UAP sighting out there, in my opinion. (Convincing in terms of it currently having no explanation, not that it’s other worldly.)
     

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