UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

Yeah that's James R's go to debunk...the planet Venus. Even though the eyewitness describes the lights as moving and then becoming stationary, and also brightly strobing. I've seen the planet Venus many times, but it doesn't ever move or flash like a strobe.

 

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And that's your rule-out is it?

MR: "I, personally, never saw X do Y. Therefore it can't happen.".

Because if "I never saw X do Y" is a valid rule-out then you've singled-handedly debunked all UAP reports anywhere, ever, in one fell stroke. Because you've personally never seen any of these UAPs do anything. Congratulations.

Or perhaps you want to walk that back, and acknowledge that your personal experiences aren't a good yardstick for analyzing phenomena.

It doesn't matter how you respond to this; it will be belligerent and useless anyway. I post this for the benefit of readers interested in the process of rational analysis versus religious fervour.

 

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Many years ago a local woman took hand-held video of a UFO in her backyard and sent it to the university, claiming it was a UFO. The astronomy department duly told her that it was the moon. She protested vehemently that she knew the moon when she saw it. The astronomer told her, "Lady, if your camera was pointed where you said it was pointed, the moon WOULD be in your picture."

So... my rule of thumb is, if it moves and/or strobes, it ain't Venus. If it doesn't move or strobe, it might be Venus - but I'd better make damn sure I KNOW where Venus IS before I decide what is an is not Venus.

 

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LOL... Such a powerful argument for a moving and strobing Venus. I'm left speechless.

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Thank you. I wholeheartedly agree.

 

Why would I? Why don't you?

 

observational astronomy - Why does Venus flicker? - Astronomy Stack Exchange

I've noticed that planets ''flicker,'' sometimes. Not sure I'd consider ''flicker'' synonymous with ''flash.''

 

Zoomed in planet Venus in the evening sky. At no point is it seen to twinkle, flash, or strobe. James' theory is hereby refuted.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VHcsPBNdT8M

 

Dont be foolish. All you can say is that it didn't do so during that video.

You ought to know that twinkling is a conditional phenomenon, depending on air temperatures and height above horizon.

Either you don't know that, and are thus unqualified to have any opinion on aerial phenomena, or you do know that and are happy to lie about it.

Either way, it is incontrovertible that you cannot be trusted to speak about aerial phenomena.

 

There's no atmospheric conditions that make the planet Venus flash like a strobe. Doesn't happen and never will. You and James are full of BS.

 

Scattered clouds passing in front of it.

Not very often, maybe, but certainly possible.

 

You're the one claiming it's Venus. The onus is on you to prove that.

 

You'd see the clouds and would know it is a star not a flashing ufo.

 

Nope. Who posted it in the UFOs/UAPs thread in the first place?

 

I made no claims about it. I simply asked what it was. The onus is on James to show that it is Venus. If not, then claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.