Understanding the Irish Republican Socialist Party

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wegs, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Found myself reading about Bernadette Devlin this afternoon, whilst looking for something completely unrelated. For those who are unaware - she was part of the Irish Republican Socialist party. She was an Irish civil rights leader and became the youngest member of British Parliament.

    After engaging, on the side of the residents, in the Battle of the Bogside, she was convicted of incitement to riot in December 1969, for which she served a short jail term. After being re-elected in the 1970 general election, Devlin declared that she would sit in Parliament as an independent socialist.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Socialist_Party

    My question is, how can a political party foster and support Republican ideals, as well as Marxist and Socialist ones (at the same time)? I'm wondering if these terms are defined differently in Ireland, as to enable them complementary of one another?

    Can you help me to understand this better?

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  3. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Think Irish republic which she called "the free state" (Saorstát) as opposed to british rule.
     
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  5. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    Not sure where the problem is
    ...doesn't Republicanism just mean no King or Queen?

    Everyone in the Republic of Ireland is by definition Republican (unless they are dissidents).

    They may have different political persuasions but their "default"position is Republicanism (and European incidentally)

    In the UK the default political persuasion is Monarchism .

    The IRA stands for the Irish Republican Army but the Irish people object to their use of the words "Irish" and "Army" in that they do/did not represent the Irish people and cannot call themselves its Army.

    Also they do not uniquely represent Republicanism since the State is already Republican (they would counter by saying that NI is part of Ireland and the South is just an artificial political creation-they call it the 26 counties)
     
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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    words are math

    usa political scam artists twist terminology to sell clicks or to trick people into giving them money
    or sell their morals to corporate to get lobbyist money and private contracts.

    trying to suggest the analysis of a social moral concept of political social design of the cultural governance is equal to polarised fiscal autonomy macro-economics is like suggesting all American capitalists want to be bernie madoff

    or the inventor of sub prime mortgage bonds trading and on selling and shorting ?
    "most subprime loans were made by companies that were not subject to any kind of federal regulation."

    a "Republican socialist" doesnt make sense to a duck n cover yank

    you need to ask and answer the question to understand the difference
    99.99% of people are to lazy & selfish or egotistical to ever make the effort to learn the difference.
     

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