Unf**king Believable, A mosque to be built at Ground Zero

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  1. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think the legal right is much at issue, or respect for that right much involved.

    The disrespect inherent in the siting, the name, the financing, the stated goals and apparent tactics, and the various side commentary from the building's supporters,

    for the large proportion of Americans - including many of the better informed ones - who regard this thing as a deliberate provocation and intentionally hostile decision - as well as the more naive or ignorant who side with the happytalk by policy

    is more the issue.
     
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  3. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    how is building a facility that is designed to cater to the growing muslim population as well as being a place where people can get true information about the faith. I can see how certain people and groups would see Islam not being seen as the other as a provocation but normal shouldn't.
     
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  5. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    The Constitution marks the very antithesis of medevial Europe's so-called enlightenment - which abused the seperation of state and religion, and a host of its racist doctrines. It ushered in equal justice for all, inalienable human rights and freedom of belief - lift off's of the Hebrew laws, declared so by the early writers of this sacred document.


    One is factual. Terrorism is not a virtual phenomenon - its absence with the Left view is criminal.
     
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  7. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    Dumping Mosques on the known sacred sites of others is hardly catering to the growing populations of Muslims. The agenda was very varied from your portrayal when these acts were commited in Jerusaem, in India - and all over Europe - where more mosques are being built than churches.

    Today, a billion Muslims deny the Jerusalem temple's existence, calling it a myth and that Jews are *OCCUPYING* their own sacred sites. What Christianity does not understand when it supports Islamic robbery is this robbery most effects Christianity: there goes the Gospels, which claims one Jesus visited this mythical, Zionist temple.

    The message of an overwhelming Mosque desecrating the NY skyline is clear: remove the Mosque in Jerusalem to a more sacred Islamic soil in Mecca - rather than pretend this is anything other than the aspiring of genocide and the utter destruction of a Jewish homeland. What it ain't is the catering to the Muslim population - as much as a hidden agenda which is blatantly exposed in Palestine. One day, Muslims will even deny 9/11 and say this is an American myth.

    I say - let Christians apply for Churches in Mecca and Tehran instead - even greater than all Islamic mosques combined - for the benefit of the growing demand of Christians to live in Arabia and hold their beliefs freely.
     
  8. TheVisitor The Journey is the Reward Registered Senior Member

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    Was the WTC a "sacred site"? I guess to those who worshiped the almighty dollar it might have been.
    Of course they put mosques on top of conquered religious sites. They even stole the finish stones off the sides of the Great Pyramid to build some of them.
    That's nothing new. To be expected. That's why there's a mosque over the Jewish temple.
    It's already just a myth. A story made up by a very sophisticated modern media and pulled over your eyes.
    Muslims didn't bring down the trade center towers, or building #7 either.
    The owner Larry Silverstein increased insurance coverage on the buildings days before the sabotage and ordered building #7 to be "pulled" himself.
    It was only slightly damaged and no steel skyscraper before WTC #7 in history had ever collapsed from just a fire.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6825088076740829413#
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6825088076740829413#docid=1381525012075538113
    I am not saying this because I'm siding with Muslims in particular. I am a Christian.
    They have many faults I'm sure as do all of us, but one thing is certain.
    Muslims did not cause the collapse of any of the three WTC buildings and the resulting lose of life.
    Those who are responsible should be brought to justice. Letting the blame fall on "the Muslims" will only assure that never happens.
     
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  9. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    the enlightenment did not happen during medeival times?
    um medeival times were know because of the alliance of church and state and the enlightenment provided the ideas to undermine the moral aruments of racist thought
    which were the ideas of the enlightenment.
    the constitution had nothing to do with the hebrew bibles laws.




    your staement was not factual.
    the left has a long resume of fighting terrorism.
     
  10. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    so a abadoned building is sacred ground?
     
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  11. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    There is nothing sacred about robbery - conducted with 20/20 vision. Hiding behind religion, Muslims are clearly inculcating the negation of a 4000 year nation and religion. There is nothing Gdly about a racist PC Genocide.
     
  12. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    I know my history. America was discovered when a ship left the shores of Spain and during Isabela's decree proclaiming all who refuse to convert must leave or be killed by a specific date. That is hardly enlightenment nor representing the American Constitution.



    BS. Their resume is totally blank, representing only Europe's shameless record.
     
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  14. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    how is buying a piece of land to build a community center robbery?
     
  15. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    the following sentence belies that.
    I didn't know the vikings had a queen Isabella. and the ships were columbuses which had nothing to do with any decrees from the spanish throne.
    Huh. I fail to see what any of that has to do with the constitution being based on the ideas of the enlightenment?





    the only BS is what your spouting. the left has done more to stop terrorism than the right in europe and in the states. just because you delusional(which your posting history suggests) doesn't mean they didn't do anything.
     
  16. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    So the forceful conquest of Hispania, classifying the non-Muslim residents as second class citizens, erecting the so-called state of dhimmitude, in which instance non-Muslims were considered the bottom of society and held in contempt, turning a Visigoth Christian Cathedral into a mosque, being persecuted and executed for displaying one's non-Islamic religious orientation too openly, the looting of the 'dhimmis' holy buildings was a daily thing, where one who didn't plan on dying any time soon was forced to acknowledge Islamic superiority represents for the supporters of the Cordoba Initiative (Cordoba House) a peaceful and harmonious coexistence between Muslims and 'dhimmis'? The mindset behind this initiative can't become any more apparent, really.

    Sorry, but the rest of your post was worthless whinging not worthy of consideration, and reply. Evading direct questions with worthless evasive gibberish is really unworthy of recognition.
     
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  17. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    which wasn't ruled by people native to anywhere near it. the muslim invasion took it from the visagoths who took it from a collection of germanic tribes who took it from the romans who took it from the carthagenians who took it from the greeks. complaining about the muslim conquest when the past 5 rulers came about from foriegn invasion seems me your problem isn't the conquest but the people doing it.
     
  18. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    You're missing the point, really. Maybe re-reading some things, and understanding what the actual issue at hand is would do you good.
     
  19. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    Columbus and all his mapsters were morano Jews. Isabela's prime target were Jews.

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    the only BS is what your spouting. the left has done more to stop terrorism than the right in europe and in the states. just because you delusional(which your posting history suggests) doesn't mean they didn't do anything.[/QUOTE]
     
  20. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    Columbus and all his mapsters on the ship were morano Jews. Isabela's prime target were Jews - there was no enlightenment in Europe - only in America.

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    The left does not understand the meaning of a mosque near 9/11. They pretend and make up their own neo history, as do Muslims. The left does not demand that dumping mosques in another peoples' sacred place is an attrocity and a genocidal aspiration. America must open her eyes about the Left and the agenda behind a mosque in ground zero by this lesson in history:

     
  21. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    Do Americans have a right to erect a gigantic church in Mecca and Medina - why not - they will pay the price for buying a piece of desert land? Your question cannot in any way be serious or naive.

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  22. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    ??? no but its american making this mosque.
     
  23. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    Your getting smarter - but not quite. You forgot that while Muslims can be citizens in America - Americans are barred from citizenships in Saudi Arabia. Muslims perpetrate this same guile in Kashmir. Was that an unintended glitch or a computer mal function?

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