Universe created by God

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Xmo1, May 5, 2018.

  1. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Not a problem, X. I accept you hold your own views about life. It's a diverse world.

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  3. Michael 345 Bali tonight Valued Senior Member

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    Most of the Universe is dead

    Only a very tiny teeny weeny part of the Universe is alive

    The individual segments of life do not stay alive for long

    Correct

    That task is left to physics

    Someone remarked physics is reality which still believes in you even if you do not believe in it


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  5. river

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    How do you know this for sure ?

    Disagree

    Physics can be controlled . Advanced beings do just that .
     
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  7. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    Your way is raising oatmeal with butter in the belief that there is a god.
    Who said we were?
    Raise your morning oatmeal in thanks and you could live forever. Me, I check the oatmeal box for any coupons.
     
  8. Michael 345 Bali tonight Valued Senior Member

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    Breakfast for me is ½ bowl cornflakes and ½ bowl muslei with milk and 1L cordial

    Coffee and ice cream with friends about 10 am

    The supermarkets have weekly specials catalogue. Nothing for me the past 6 weeks

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  9. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    I try to remember to say thanks every time life gives me something. And I give back when I can.

    All the much more to be thankful--we're still around to talk about it.

    It's appropriate to be thankful for those things that come our way, whether it be a bowl of oatmeal or coupons on the back of the box.
     
  10. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    why?
     
  11. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    One of the things about Evolution is chance mutations, we are still around courtesy of those.
    Your saying they were not chance events and I should give thanks to something for that?
     
  12. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    We live in a world where there are people who are without God. We can understand that they are not really without God, but they have chosen to live as though there is no God.
    That's as good as it gets.

    Jan.
     
  13. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    If you believe everything is by chance, including your own existence, maybe you should give thanks for your good fortune.
     
  14. Michael 345 Bali tonight Valued Senior Member

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    Fairly pointless giving thanks to fortune - good or bad

    Somewhere in the background there would have been a division point, probibly many of them, which would result in billions of options

    Anyone could have sprung into being from any of those options. Some might have been better and some worse

    If if if we knew any of those billions of options and could pick a better one OK perhaps you would

    Then find out later if you keep your old option you would live 20 years longer

    You have a very limited to affect ANYTHING and with the unknowable billions effects swirling around your effort try not to overestimate your existence

    If if if you really are looking for somewhere to park your thanks look no further than CHANCE and PHYSICS

    Don't expect any responsive reply

    Hey that's the same non response theist get from god

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  15. Hayden Registered Senior Member

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    Ok, so what.
     
  16. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Yet here you are. Would you want it any other way?
     
  17. Michael 345 Bali tonight Valued Senior Member

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    YES - but options are not a option

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  18. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    What alternatives would you have preferred?
     
  19. Michael 345 Bali tonight Valued Senior Member

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    Born Prince Harry

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  20. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, in your eyes or beliefs you like to understand the world as something like the film ''Gangs of New York '', them and us. How many religions are there?
     
  21. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    What is it with you and this ''thanks'' thing. You like thanking things that's up to you, and I'm not being funny, but thats puts me in mind of someone who has one of those counting compulsions, yours is thanking things.
     
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  22. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    I'm here because I'm here.
    Ok, if I buy this god thing and to keep on its good side, I go around thanking it for everything and everything that happens to me, what does that get me? what does the reward give me? Would I be an individual whatnot someplace ''living forever'' whatever thats means here? What does this ''living forever'' mean?
    Would this ''Living forever'' mean ''I'm'' exposed to this god's eternal causing of suffering to those not yet dead. Do I have to keep telling myself I'm enjoying this ''living forever'' because I'm not suffering? Is that all there is to this ''living forever'' thing?
     
  23. river

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    Living forever is about experience in the material world .

    Joy and suffering , is the growth of the soul .
     

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