Universe created by God

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Xmo1, May 5, 2018.

  1. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    My dictionary says...Bliss ''A state of extreme happiness''.
    When a baby is in pain it is not in a state of extreme happiness.
    Since God came up with the concept of suffering I and some others have no choice in whether we to go out battered or not.
    Hence:
     
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  3. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Argument from ignorance. "I don't know, therefore God." Lame, and not at all specific as to WHICH god that would be even if there was one.
     
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  5. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Where do you find extreme happiness?
     
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  7. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps there is one God with many faces.
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Bliss is contentment by way of obliviousness.

    Why, in heaven, of course. We can not experience it here in life, but who's to say it's not a perfectly valid state of being in heaven?
     
  9. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    It is a pity all the God story is mere speculation and made up as it leaves it as fiction ... sure you can perhaps this and perhaps that I guess and then pick a version that suits you...it wont be true it will still be just made up.
    Thats the problem for religion it just cant move past the tag that it just made up and clearly fiction.
    Alex
     
  10. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps established religions have served only to separate us from God. I mean, how can we be separate when we are it?
     
  11. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Heaven.
     
  12. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps all religion is just unbridled superstition.

    Perhaps you are the only living creature and all you see and feel is no more than a simulation fed to your brain and nothing you perceive is real.

    You can perhaps all you like but for a reasonable understanding of reality one should not perhaps this or that but take time to study nature and science...and if religion is of interest study how it evolved from animal worship in hunter gatherer times, Sun worship when agriculture took off and its evolvement to provide authority to put in place laws to help manage large populations.

    Alex
     
  13. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Am I separate from the whole? Is there an individual that exists independent of everything?
     
  14. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    X, is the Universe intelligent, emotional and spiritual?
     
  15. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I dont know if you seek speculation try a priest.
    You can make up what you want just as others have done and call it relevation or you can stop lieing to yourself.
    Look at yourself in the mirror and tell yourself the story you wish to invent and know you are lieing to the person you see.
    Alex
     
  16. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I dont think so and can not think of any reason why it would have human attributes...it would seem that only living things have any of the qualities you seek so looking for them in the universe is a long shot...why should it have any human qualities?
    Alex
     
  17. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    The person? Should I wrap my self in personal identity?
     
  18. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Are you an independent creation?
     
  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes and no depending on if you have warrents.
    Alex
     
  20. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I am not an attached twin if that is that has you wondering.
    Alex
     
  21. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Okay. Have a good night.
     
  22. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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  23. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps "god" is a fungus living on tree in the Amazon.
     

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