Unlike Israel Syria has not resorted to retailiatory violence

Dear Sciforumers!!!

i hope all is goin ok and that we had good weekends.

I was thinking sort of in rrealtion to Mr Spocks UN -unbalanced to Israel thread, of the following events

1) Hizbollah snatch a couple of israeli soldiers from the border of lebanon Israel (not sure what side) and killed up to half a dozen more....

what happens next is that lebanon's infastructure is smashsed to pulp and over 1,000 innocent civilians are killed. the IAF attack was executed only hours after the Hizbollah raid

The ceasefire call is even delayed (dragged Out) to let isreal carry on killing

2) The IAF fly half a dozen (numbers TBC) fighter bombers into Syria and cause destruction to whatever facility and obviously kill a few syrian military personel and probably some innocents

What happens next is that Syria complains to the UN. The syrians have also said they wuill retailiate when the time is right, but maybe not militarily.

So i have some questions

1) which country acted the most iin peace?
2) which was the violation of international law?
3) what if Syria had made a bmbing raid inside of israel? what would israel had done???

and so on and so forth

thanks for reading and thoughts please ladies and gentlemen
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cheers
zak

 

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Perhaps Lebanon shouldn't have allowed the terrorist group Hizbollah to operate openly in their nation. Maybe that action will teach Lebanon and other nations not to harbor terrorist groups, huh?

What do you think, Zak, if French murderers were to be able to sneak into the UK, murder some Brits, then find sanctuary back on French soil? And if they continue to do that, year after year, with total immunity. Do you think the UK shouldn't do anything at all? Or do you think that the UK should just talk a lot, but allow the murders to continue indefinitely?

Baron Max

 

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Wait, Doesn't Israel have the no. 1 intelligence agency ? one that is only exceeded by the CIA by size ? Heres an Idea: why not find the terrorist leaders and kill them remotely without using massive retaliatory attacks which only garner up sympathy for Hizbollah. If the English could identify the point of contact on their soil, don't you think they'd stop it ?
The way to combat terrorism is not the wage war on innocent civilians, it is to kill the head of the hydra and win the minds and hearts of their prime recruits, the orphaned, the poor and the innocent.

 

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Dear Maximus,

thank you for your input, i hopwe all is well with you

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did you have a good weekend.

What do you mean a terrorist ggroup like IRA?? Cant seem to remember Dublin or even Belfast being bombed like lebanon was last year buy Isreal

Anyway....

Hizbollah was born from the Israeli invasion in the 1980's, it would not be around if it wasnt for that agreesion, anyway thats another story..

Moving on Maximus... I dotn see Syria firing a few dozen missles into Dimona or tel-Aviv as retailiation do you? And israels violation was far worse than hizbollahs last year

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take it ez
zak

 

I don't know ...if one keeps doing that, perhaps those "innocent" civilians will stop harboring terrorists, quit helping them, quit allowing them into their homes and neighborhoods, ....., perhaps those same "innocent" civilians will stop supporting terrorism.

Baron Max

 

Maybe Hizbollah will learn a few lessons from it, huh?
And better still, perhaps all those "innocent" Lebanonese civilians will quit supporting the terrorists who live in their homes and neighborhoods.

Baron Max

 

So Syria is the real country of peace then?????????????????????

As they have not acted in a disproportionate and agreesive way, while killing over a 1000 jnnocent civilans in the process.

i love the way you are avioding the issues here in order to deflect away from the facts! of israels anti peace agression!!!

And its a pity now then that even the top IDF brass reckon Hizbollah is more pwoerful than it was prior to the war last year!!! And its double shame Israel aint got their soldiers back too.. Luckily Syria is not as agreesive as Israel. its scares me to think what Israekl woudl do if it suddenly came under a missle atack from Syria on its illegal dimona nuclear reactor!!!

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take it ez
zak

 

Nope, they support terrorism with money, weapons and political support.

Baron Max

 

Syria is outgunned by Israel. If they got into a pissing contest Israel could probably nuke them.

 

No, Syria is like the head gangster dude, who has some of his low-level cronies (i.e. Hezbollah) to carry out their dirty work for them so they don't seem like the 'real' bad guys.

Uhhh, doesn't Hezbollah STILL have the Israeli soldiers that they captured/kidnapped from last year?

You mean to tell me that since Israel got their land back in 1948 from the Muslims who stole it from them way back when, they are the ones who have been picking on and messing with all those Arab countries (each of which are several times bigger than Israel) and starting fights with them???

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Israel conducted that raid on Syrian soil sure. But if the convoy that Israel struck was carrying weapons to go to Hezbollah, then Syria allowed those weapons to be transported across its soil. And if they were weapons for Hezbollah, there's no way Syria didn't know about it.

And you'll see shit like this from Israel until they do get their soldiers back.
And it's easy to become a powerful terrorist organization when your units hide out in residential areas, then run out into their yards, fire some rockets across the border, THEN run right back into the houses. Real brave.

 

Syria has been perpetually attacking Israel for decades, and Israel has not been retaliating at all, other than the occasional sporadic overflight over Bashar's palace to try to intimidate him. a very successful method at getting him to laugh at the IDF & IAF. he's sending suicide bombers et al. via his proxies, and all he gets in retaliation is a fucking buzzing by planes.

 

even at the height of the 2nd Lebanon War last year he didn't get a single bombing inside Syria despite being the resupply engine for Hizb.

what a joke.

man, he is the luckiest bastard on earth.

 

The Romans were Muslims? :crazy:

 

No, the Romans weren't but the Persians who captured Jerusalem and the land that was Israel, from the Romans, WERE.
http://www.centuryone.com/hstjrslm.html


A.D.
614
Persian conquest of Jerusalem — They destroy most churches
and expel Jews
629
Recaptured by Byzantines.




638 — 1099
The Early Muslim Period


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638
Six years after Mohammed's death, the Caliph Omar enters
Jerusalem and Jews are readmitted to Jerusalem
691
Dome of the Rock completed by Caliph Abd al-Malik
701
The construction of the al-Aqsa mosque completed
by Caliph al-Walid
1010
Caliph al-Hakim orders destruction of synagogues
and churches

1099=1218 were the failed Crusades

THEN:
1219
City walls razed by Sultan Malik-al-Muattam
1244
Khawarizmian Turks capture Jerusalem. End of Crusader rule.



1260 — 1517

The Mameluk Period


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1244
Mameluk Sultans defeat the Ayyubids and rule Jerusalem
1260
The Mameluks of Egypt capture Jerusalem


So, Sam, who ran Jerusalem and Israel between 1219 and 1947? It weren't the Jews or the Christians.

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Ah so it was the Persians (in 614 AD) who were responsible for the Roman capture of Israel (in 19 BCE).



Makes perfect sense.

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So Jews have not been in control of Israel for how many years now? Is it less than the American settlement of the US? :crazy:

Interesting history:

It would appear the Persians allowed the Jews back into Jerusalem

And again:

 

Everyone and their mother already knows that the Jews have been in control of Isreal since 1948. Thanks for filling us in on that one Princess Obvious.

Have you been taking crazy pills this morning?
Can't you just answer my question?
Who was in control of Israel/Jerusalem between 1219 and 1947?

 

Not the Jews who ran away under the Romans and did not come back until it was gifted to them out of guilt by those who had considered them less than human. (2000 years later)

It was not taken from the Jews either, by the Persians.

What did the Jews do after the Romans kicked them out 2000 years ago? (like the Americans kicked out the native Americans, although the reservations and disease ridden blankets did not come until WWII).

The only times they came back in any numbers was under the Persians or the Muslims.

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what does this have to do with "Syria resorting (or not) to violence"?

Sam plz don't answer. it was a rhetorical question. no need to spam with more irrelevant rhetoric

 

Its not irrelevant that people have a poor understanding of history.

There are kids today in the US who believe that the US fought with Germany against the USSR.

You're supposed to be Israeli, you should understand what history means, it gave you a country. :bugeye:

 

And israel dont support terrorism and terrorist groups.

this could also apply to the US but lets not go down there for the moment!!!


So that being equal whos violation was the worst and whos reaction was the worst and most disproportionate????!!!

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cheers
zak