VitalOne's Fallacious Rants Against Atheism

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by VitalOne, Nov 3, 2007.

  1. Thoreau Valued Senior Member

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    Its ok.

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  3. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Not satisfactorily you didn't.

    Ashura makes my point also. You are being dishonest in your methods, twisting definitions to suit your purpose.

    If we took a poll, 'Do you believe in God' with the possible responses;

    1, Yes
    2, No
    3, Don't know

    and were asked to count up how many people were theists, which responses would you add up? Well, you'd only take the number that took option 1.

    If you were asked therefore to calcalute the number of atheists, what numbers would you add up? Well, as atheist is a-theist, literally, 'not a theist' it's everyone who does not count themselves a theist, so it's ever option added up apart from option 1. It does not matter if agnostics do no label themselves atheists, but moreover that they do not label themselves 'theists'!

    I can't make this any simpler, so if you can't understand it, you are lost. I think though, it is that you won't understand it, because admitting you are an atheist shoots down all of your own arguments.

    Anyway, maybe you can spend the time of you ban coming up with an argument that isnt full of fallacies nd straw men? You've got two days, so it had better be good.
     
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  5. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Ah, so you speak for atheists now? Was there an election?

    I am an atheist, and I do care if there is evidence for abiogenesis, and well, there are some studies which demonstrate it's feasibility.

    So again you build a straw man, and they try and burn it down with damp matches. You really do suck at debate.
     
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  7. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    By using your own version of "god of the gaps" argument, except turning it towards abiogenesis

    We're all ready to take it to fact when it gets proved, or throw it away when a better solution comes up. You know... science...

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    dont bring it up again

    Atheists also don't take it for a fact, you twat. It is one of many hypothesis that are currently being discussed and tested.

    Design is not a viable explanation.
     
  8. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    Yes I know to atheists personal experiences are not evidence of God, and atheists cannot give any example of what can be evidence of God besides "God coming down one day" or "reviving an amputee's leg"

    All praise the atheistic faith
     
  9. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    Yeah, you're wrong, wrong wrong wrong

    You're using an agrument from ignorance
     
  10. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    why dont you tell him why hes wrong instead of just responding with equal "ignorance"
     
  11. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    Well why can't he just look up the argument from ignorance
     
  12. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    let me just say....I am sooo glad your back
     
  13. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    Yours is thew silliest post I have read so far. Try tyhinking, however painful you find it.

    If you claim there is a god and I disagree , it is up to you to prove your point. not my job to disprove it.

    If I claim I have fairies at the bottom of my garden and you cannot see them you are entitled to ask me to provide evidence. You cannot be expected to prove that they do not exist. If you try, I can counter what you say with all sorts of nonsense. I can say, the fairies do not wish to be seen by you, you are not worthy, they suspect a hostile presence, first you must believe in them, you must pray to them for faith . Once you have faith you will not need to see them because you will know they are there, so why trouble them by asking them to manifest for a mere mortal like you. Sound familiar ? It's the stuff of which religion is made

    I do not dispute your rightto believe what you want to but don't ask me to join the club unless you can convince me that you have something to offer by way of evidence,
     
  14. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    hahah, how do you assume I'm brainwashed? I know how, circular logic...great strategy
     
  15. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    All the atheists should rejoice, no one else besides me can beat them up in an argument
     
  16. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    ROFL...argument from ignorance...

    Something isn't false until proven true

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    Sorry atheists, but evidence doesn't cause something to become true, you can't say something is false because of this...

    Hmm...what does fairies have to do with this? Oh, I know nothing, it's just another typical atheistic analogy used to preserve the atheistic faith...

    Sorry, but the existence of fairies has absolutely nothing to do with the existence of God

    What a typical atheist, instead of addressing the substance of the argument you dodged out of the entire thing, ofcourse I cannot give you evidence if nothing can be considered evidence

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    A better analogy is something like the many-worlds interpretation, there is no evidence because nothing can be considered as evidence, not because of an absence of evidence when evidence should be present...

    Such a typical atheistic post
     
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  17. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    Uhm...how can you distinguish either atheism and theism from delusion?
     
  18. SnakeLord snakeystew.com Valued Senior Member

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    He wasn't implying anything of the kind. Wakey wakey.

    He's not talking about the 'existence' of fairies, he's talking about having no evidence and you not believing until you have some. Wakey wakey.
     
  19. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    SKinWalker just deleted my posts...apparently using logical fallacies is not scientific, it doesn't belong in a science forum, but "Does God poop" made it, it wasn't because it goes against atheism

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  20. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    Hey guys I can't respond, my posts will either be deleted or removed or I'll get banned or something
     
  21. Thoreau Valued Senior Member

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    ???? I doubt you will be punished for carrying on a conversation.
     
  22. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    just one case of ireversibly complex structure in nature
     
  23. Killian_1_4 Registered Senior Member

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    Man is guilty, but I have no evidence to support this.

    Just because there is no evidence to support he is guilty doesn't mean he isn't guilty. BUT, because there is no evidence to support he is guilty, we should not convict him for the crime. atm, the man is irrelevant to the jury because there is no evidence supporting his involvment.
    Likewise, just because there is no evidence to support God doesn't mean God doesn't exist. BUT, because there is no evidence supporting his existence, we should not assume he does exist. We should admit the possibility of his existence, but not worship him as if he does. If God exists, atm he is irrelevant to my life because he has not shown his existance.
    Atheism is not the belief God doesn't exist, it is the lack of belief in his existance.
     

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