Was Cho Seung-hui decision rational or irrational?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by draqon, Apr 19, 2007.

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Was Cho Seung-hui's decision rational or irrational?

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  1. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    Thus sayeth the person whose first post ever on this forum started with a death threat against a person who he has never met.
     
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  3. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    lol, perfect example. Your american, dull mental acuity, arrogance, cognitive dissonance and projection is so unoriginal and used it stinks like slime.

    Who the hell are you to tell me or anybody what societies I prefer because you're pissed I addressed Cho's disability or needs and america is busy hating over their 32.

    Did Choey make a itty bitty dent in your world and now you are throwing a tantrum and telling me to move, lol. You just purposely flipped the facts stinky, "dream, rant, cry, and shout" is what america is doing over their 32. Get over it. That's life, ain't it?

    "You can dream, rant, cry and shout all you want - but it's not going to change anything."

    Why don't you americans take your own advice and stop whining.
     
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  5. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    I dont think he was looking for attention. It cant be enjoyed when youre dead.

    He was looking for a brief moment of revenge.
     
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  7. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Poor deluded Peta.

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    You've not heard me once whine - yet I've seen you rant, cry and SCREAM in all-caps in at least one post just recently.

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    Personally, I'm very glad your beloved, deranged, warped "Choey" is stone cold dead - and I'd be even happier if every other deranged, warped, deluded idiot joined him in that as soon as possible. I wouldn't harm any of them myself but I do LOVE the fact that most of them are suicidal.

    I'm not whining at all (unlike you!), I'm rejoicing!!!

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  8. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    Poor retard Read-only. Didn't I already point out your cognitive dissonance disability to you? And like a stupid dog, wagging your dumb tail.

    People have been whining all over the threads, mostly americans. If you actually had a brain you would realize caps or screaming have nothing to do with whining. There is nothing more pathetic than whining over a dead man because you can't screw him over in person. LOL

    If you actually could read and paid any attention to the news, america is whining over their 32 cold corpses. They're distraught and pissed because they are dead, dead, dead and that's a fact. Evidently you're glossing over that fact or it just went over your head. Cognitive dissonance again, huh?

    Well, maybe someday you'll be shot for being a worthless, breathing, retarded american scumbag.
     
  9. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Ha-Ha-Ha!!

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    Just can't take it can you? See how easily you get all bent out of shape?

    No, I'm not whining about the people he killed although I certainly feel badly for those they left behind. It would have been much better if he had just stood in the town square, drew an audience and then blew his face off.

    I know you can't comprehend this, but the world is a better place without him. And the more those like him exit, the better it will continue to be.
     
  10. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    That's where you and society are blind. Because you are a shallow typical piece of shit and there are many like you, you believe you are more deserving.

    Cho was a sweeter, sensitive, and more profound, self-sacrificing soul than you and your breathing, undeserving asses combined. It isn't just because he has a disability but because instinctively the scummy masses know when there is a true soul in their midst and they attack it because they are tainted and unworthy. It's always been that way.

    The world is shit BECAUSE there are not enough people like him. But people like him are ironicly too good and special to be in this cesspool of a world.

    You like it because you are shit.

    If there is a hell, it's the likes of you who should be going there.
     
  11. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    OK, I can see it clearly now - you're taking this position because you have similar problems and can identify with him.

    And with that, I'm completely through with this discussion and with you. All you know how to do is hurl one insult after another and say absolutely nothing of real substance.
     
  12. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    That's interesting, the likes of you preaching to me about substance when I know what real substance is. No, because I'm not a shallow asshole unlike you.

    That's another one of your disabilities, fake projection. Again, you turn and project your own shallow faults onto others which makes you a scumbag on top of being shallow. Scummy way to reach the top of the food chain, huh?
    Your posts show you are at best two-dimensional.


    Got it, you plastic, fake piece of shit?
     
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  13. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Settle down, people.
     
  14. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    Some people are judging Cho because he happened to be a little more susceptible than the rest of us.
     
  15. Saquist Banned Banned

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    That brings to the fore, whether the insane are responsible for there actions.
     
  16. draqon Banned Banned

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    and what exactly defines one insane
     
  17. Saquist Banned Banned

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    I'am not sure...but I've been struggling with this ever since that I discovered, for some reason that I can sympatize with Cho. Before, I would have agreed, had he lived then the death penalty would be appropriate. Now I'm not so sure..

    He was troubled...now I see someone who really needed our help.
    I struggle with this...I don't think I could make the decision.

    I don't think he was truely insane....does irrational lead to insane?
     
  18. draqon Banned Banned

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    insane simply means that which is against the society. Insanity in realm of oneself does not exist.
     
  19. Jeremyhfht Registered Senior Member

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    To all the people that voted irrational: That is an irrational decision. Think of how subjective it is to claim irrationality, when you did not know his circumstances or thoughts.

    The subjectivity of the matter makes it impossible to claim it as irrational. As that would be an irrational act in itself. Especially since this is not a subject with which evidence holds much weight, as it'd remain subjective to the individual anyway.

    As a result, I choose rational. Simply because it's illogical to choose anything else.
     
  20. Saquist Banned Banned

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    emotions rarely have anything to do with logic.
    Therefore it is logical to chose "rational" as a logical emotion.
    There is no logic...the very essense of emotion is irrational and unbalanced.
     
  21. Saquist Banned Banned

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    Curioous and somewhat unfathomable.
     
  22. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    I strongly disagree, sorry. "Irrational" means faulty reasoning processes and responding to situations in a highly abnormal manner.

    For example, if a food server brought you tea to drink instead of the water you had ordered, jumping up and screaming and slapping the server would be irrational and inappropriate. It would also bring on a whole series of repercussions that would then have to be dealt with. Asking to have it exchanged would be a rational action and the problem is resolved.

    Choosing not to speak when spoken to is irrational behavior. Nothing is accomplished - any problem or conflict that exists is not dealt with and STILL remains.

    This individual was so far gone that it was impossible to reach him - because he did NOT want to be reached. He did NOT want his issues resolved. And that's not rational behavior, either. Rather, he wanted to keep it all sealed up inside him and his primary purpose for living was to only increase that hatred and distance himself even more from those around him. He fed on it. Hardly rational.
     
  23. Jeremyhfht Registered Senior Member

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    Emphasis on the Faulty Reasoning Process. Which my post claims the people that called the guy "irrational" have.

    Rationality is a purely subjective thing. As humans are subjective beings, they cannot think 100% objectively (as their prior ideas make it subjective).

    Therefore, it is irrational to claim YOUR rationality is more rational then his. As you can't even question it, since he's dead.

    Thus, it's irrational to call his reasoning irrational. Since you don't even know what his reasoning was, for one.

    People that express violent tendancies tend to leave hints. These hints mean that he wanted his issues resolved. Once again, as I said in a past thread, Family members tend to be the least observing.

    To you it is not, as my explanation shows. Furthermore, you are assuming his actions, based on little to no evidence. I rebuke it on the clause that they're baseless assumptions.

    Similarly, I will try not to make statements based on similar baseless assumptions, if you spot them do point them out.

    Assumption, assumption, more assumptions. I know of no psychology case where this happens without provocation. And in those cases, parts of them do not want it.
     

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