Was Satan wrong to demand equal rights in heaven?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Greatest I am, Apr 5, 2015.

  1. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    i understand the text just fine, but i wonder how you see the text twisted, as it is right infront of you.
     
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  3. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    The God gave us free will, god the father does not know what our choices are. but he believes he does, as our free will is part of him
     
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  5. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks for the chat.

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    DL
     
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  7. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    you are welcome, thank you for your time
     
  8. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    How do you know you have free will?
     
  9. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    given that we recognize our past choices and compare them to our future choices, and can predict to a degree what will happen when makings descisions, shows that we have paths of choices.
     
  10. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe you had no choice but to make those exact choices.
     
  11. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    i believe this where belief is needed, to make a step into the unknown to seek god without evidence, you need a pioneering spirit.
    we should not belittle people who takes steps into the unknown to find the truth, its how we gained our knowledge.
     
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  12. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    I like the steps into the unknown part, but you should find the truth of things before you believe them.
     
  13. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    perhaps, but we can takes steps forward with or without believing there is a ground to step on, and because of those us who do, people who comes later know of solid ground
     
  14. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Where is the solid ground of faith? Faith is belief without evidence. There is nothing to stand on but the hollowness of hope and fear.
     
  15. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    if you need to take a step without falling, test it with one foot.

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  16. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Better yet, prod it with a pole.
     
  17. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Or a flamethrower.

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  18. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    however you test or not test the path before you, if you have faith the lord will pull you up should you misstep. just dont blame the lord for the step you took voluntarily
     
  19. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    And if not, you can always use the excuse that He works in mysterious ways.
     
  20. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    apparently he had always pulled you up, seeing as how you are here
     
  21. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    True to a point but most return with knowledge or nothing.

    Religions have returned with nothing but lies.

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  22. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    I believe you give religion too little credit, we should not ignore the truth religion brought us. I believe religion has done more good then bad, and those who do evil in the name of religion never last
     
  23. river

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    Hmm.. think of jobs

    Both god and satan played games with Humanity paying the ultimate price.
     

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