Were We Told the Truth about World War 2?

Discussion in 'Conspiracies' started by FatFreddy, Nov 26, 2013.

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  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    As usual, the fanatical, paranoid views of the conspiracy nutters, and the alternative and non-mainstream pushers, will always grab some ounce of truth, inflate it into an outright lie, add more fantasies, and then cry conspiracy.
    I said it the other day, in the main people who believe such as you, need to be locked up for their own good.
    Your kind have no other outlet for your lies/conspiracies/innuendos and warped take on history, other than to infest otherwise interesting forums.
     
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  3. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    Did you listen to these speeches of Hitler's?
    http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=Adolf Hitler: Explains His Reasons For Invading The Soviet Union
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Adolf Hitler: Explains Reasons For Invading Poland&sm=12

    Do you think they were faked?

    I'm an American and I was taught that the Germans supported the idea of taking over Europe to expand their territory. The above videos show that to be a lie that the American government told the American people.

    Did they tell you about this?
    http://www.talmudterror.com/otherlosses.htm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhl0Jw5JW0c
     
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  7. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Only when YOU respond to post 71.
     
  8. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    You are not being honest with yourself.

    - Your post #68

    Americans are taught that Hitler was a tyrant. Nobody asked the German people anything. Hitler never won a vote. Hitler was appointed Chancellor of Germany. He wasn't elected by the German people.
     
  9. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    Good grief. You know I'm not in a postion to be able to verify something like that. All I know is that there is stuff on the internet that says he was a Jewish puppet.

    http://hofflandia.wordpress.com/sov...d-barrel-by-jews-–-as-jews-from-1917-to-1990/
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    During this Communist Dictatorship on the Russian People the JEW “ROBBER BARONS” with their “JEW PUPPET” Stalin Murdered more than 62 MILLION GENTILE CHRISTIANS IN RUSSIA.
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    Stuff people write and post on the internet so it's mere second-hand information that may or may not be true. When we have two of Hitler's speeches which were censored in the US that contradict what Americans are taught, it's something that shows us that something's amiss. Tell us why you think those two speeches aren't played for history students in American high schools.
    http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=Adolf Hitler: Explains His Reasons For Invading The Soviet Union
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Adolf Hitler: Explains Reasons For Invading Poland&sm=12
     
  10. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Do we really have to allow this crap, even in the psycho section of the forum.

    Like all crap shouldn't this go to the cesspool.
     
  11. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I second that.
     
  12. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    FatFreddy:

    I don't have time to watch your videos, so can you summarise for me?

    What do you think Hitler's aim was in invading Poland, France etc., if not to conquer Europe and expand German sovereignty?

    And do you dispute Hitler's antisemitism and plan for the holocaust?
     
  13. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    Somebody answer what I asked in post #86. Why don't history students get to hear these two speeches of Hitler's.

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Adolf Hitler: Explains Reasons For Invading Poland&sm=12
    http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=Adolf Hitler: Explains His Reasons For Invading The Soviet Union

    It's history, isn't it?
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    This video is an excerpt from "Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told" (second video).
    "This is the Reason Hitler attcked Poland & This Genuine Reason is always Hidden by Anti-Hitler Media"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4xF5TekPvQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhGfCTA_6wA

    I wasn't there. I don't see how it can be proven either way. We'd have to go to Poland and Germany and find some really old people to ask. I don't think there are many left who saw what was happening first hand.
     
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  14. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Your evasion of this simple and obvious question is noted. Anyone who cares to can very easily find abundant history sources saying Stalin was a Georgian, who was educated at an Orthodox seminary. Of course he was not Jewish.

    It's true there were a lot of Jews among the Menshevik revolutionaries (who got bumped off or imprisoned by the Bolsheviks) and that Trotsky (whom Stalin had assassinated) was Jewish.

    A bit of a stretch to argue that Stalin, arguably the most monstrous tyrant in history, was a "puppet" of anybody, I'd have thought, least of all Jews, who had nothing to gain and a huge amount to lose from tyrannies like his.
     
  15. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    Imo germany had more smart scientists per capita during the wars. That's why when ww2 was over usa an russia forgave them an used them an learned from them.. Some german war criminals deemed very useful were forgiven as well.
     
  16. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    hitler DID NOT have the support of the masses for his invasions.
    this is one of the reasons concentration camps were needed.
     
  17. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Well I'm not American so I don't know what Amercians were told. But we British were well aware of the Nazi doctrine of Lebensraum, details here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum

    Nobody will ever know the degree to which the whole German population subscribed to this doctrine, as they were never asked to vote on it, and any of them who might have expressed open dissent would probably have been picked up the secret police and beaten up or worse.
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No.
     
  19. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    we are all "born innocent".
    who really cares about hitlers childhood?
    the facts still remain, nazi germany was responsible for some of the most horrific crimes of WW2.
    the really bad part is that valuable data was gleaned from some of these dastardly deeds.
     
  20. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    This is the third time I'm asking this question.

    (from post #90)
    Objective truth-seekers don't avoid questions and hope the asker will forget about it. If they see that they've been wrong all their lives, they modify their opinions.

    This is a very legitimate question so I'd like to hear the views of the pro-official version posters on this.
     
  21. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    the first link is a list of search results, not a single video.
    the second will not play but the wording suggests that germany did what it did because soviet russia wanted germany to do it.
    a direct confession wouldn't you say?
     
  22. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    Okay. Here's the first video.
    "Adolf Hitler: Explains Reasons For Invading Poland."
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIsQBgvcaeA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXnTaJOokDg


    It plays when I click on it.

    "Hitler Explains His Reasons for Invading the Soviet Union"
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a0_1301486247


    Now, will you pro-official version posters please answer my question? Why don't American history students hear those speeches in history class? It's real history, isn't it?
     
  23. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    what's your point fatfreddy?
    nazi germany never invaded all those countries?
    nazi germany didn't have concentration camps?
    nazi germany didn't murder people in those camps?

    for you to play nazi germany off like it was innocent is despicable.

    werner von braun even said the slave labor he had made it almost impossible to keep the german V2 program on track.
    the medical field will certainly attest to german atrocities.
    the international red cross will attest to the victims of concentration camps.
    nazi germany did it fatfreddy, live with it.
    nazi germany will get exactly ZERO sympathy from me.
     
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