What is it about woo that upsets you?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by wegs, Apr 23, 2019.

  1. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    That's what I think. But some people seem to think it does mathematics.
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Oh for Pete's Sake.

    Tegmark, quasi-intelligence, mathematical universe - and you even managed to squeeze in microtubules!

    If you'd managed to stuff 'quorum-sending' in there, I'd have a complete BINGO card and win the prize.

    I just can't wait to see what shiny thing next catches your attention and becomes you next Only Answer To Life the Universe and Everything This Is It Guys Really This Time.

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    I think you're having us on, W4U. Trying to see how much you can get away with before we cry 'rat'.

    Going on Ignore.
     
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  5. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Wegs, you've created a monster...
     
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  7. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I think it all began when I mentioned Tegmark.....

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    I should change the thread title to ''what is it about Tegmark that upsets you?''
     
  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    That fundamental way is mathematical in essence. which is a logical conclusion based on the evidence.
     
  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    In Eukaryotic organisms it is the network which is the basis for true intelligence in biological organisms. Microtubules are nano scale computers, trillions of them. That's how bacteria can perform "quorum sensing". A chemical mathematical counting ability, before becoming virulent. Fits right in with a fundamental mathematical universe.
    I did in an earlier post, did you miss it? Except it isn't "quorum sending", it is "quorum sensing".
    How can you judge the logic of a proposition if you don't read accurately what is being proposed?
    Of course everything relates to this . Tegmark believes his hypothesis is the beginning of a TOE.
    A Theory Of Everything should be applicable to Everything!

    Woo or not, that's what he proposes. I can see the logic in the proposition. I have gone out on a limb and try to be as thorough as I am able in my understanding of what Tegmark is proposing and try to tie the implications to various other parts of natural phenomena, i.e. inherent mathematical pattern forming abilities.

    But apparently it is beginning to upset a few people so I'll rest my pen and let others come up with a different controversial scientific hypothesis . I'd love to be on the critiquing side for a change.

    All I can hope for is that I have stirred some interest and curiosity in a few minds. I'm done......

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    Thank you wegs for bringing the subject up....

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  10. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think you did anything wrong, Write4U. Your passion for math is inspiring.I guess there comes a point though when we reach an impasse during discussions, but don't feel like you did anything wrong.
     
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  11. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe start a thread with Jan called "Can an atheist know God".
     
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  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    How about "what is it about mainstream science that upsets you"?
    Anybody has a any complaints about mainstream? Schrodinger's cat?
     
  13. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Make that Does anyone know how to fit Tegmark, Mathematics and Microtubules into TOE?

    Bonus if can add Schrodinger's cat (alive or dead)

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  14. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    YES
    You have to find it dead 9 times before it dies

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  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    It was a typo. Of course I've read it, how could anyone miss it?
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Bacteria practising mathematics. Pretty cool huh? Of course they've had 3.5 billion years to learn how to use it.
     
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  17. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    This is mad.
     
  18. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    In that sense of actually learning...
    I think it's cool that quarks learnt to make other particles in a much shorter time.
     
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  19. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    I always understood Schrodinger's cat to be a case of reductio absurdum
     
  20. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    lol
     
  21. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed.
     
  22. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    My understanding is that their behaviors can be described in mathematical terms, but bacteria can't ''practice'' math. No 's' in practice!

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  23. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    However, the ability to conceptualize, discriminate, and represent varying quantities in animals (other than humans) is fairly common--mammals, birds, fish, etc. Don't know about insects. Typically the term "numerosity" (which I aways get a kick out of 'cuz it's close to "numinosity") is used wherein the ability is present without precision. There's a really fascinating study done with dingoes, but I can't locate it at the moment, so... yeah... sorry. Anyways, were the cats who do "studies" of these sorts more conversant with zoosemioticians I'm sure there'd be even more exciting work being done.
     

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