What is Magnetism?

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by Pascal Halbherr, Jan 4, 2018.

  1. Pascal Halbherr Registered Member

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    Well, if you get behind slide 1 of my powerpoint, you might find my thoughts about toroidal vibration. I prefere to let image guide you instead of pure words.
    Its very hard to explain without images. I put all my heart in it.. maybe you spend me some minutes of your precious life and join my ride <3
     
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  3. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    I hope he answers you this time.

    edit to add: I guess not... [shrug]
     
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  5. Pascal Halbherr Registered Member

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    Magnetism seen through The Ferrocell is incredibly beautiful and of holographic nature. I highly sugest to build one your own, its very simple. You will enjoy to see it live, promise

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  7. NotEinstein Valued Senior Member

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    And scientists prefer mathematical equations. I don't see any when scrolling through the slides. You do know that both classical and quantum magnetism is full of equations and mathematical derivations, not "pure words" or "images"?

    It would be a shame if you don't have any maths to back up your images; all that effort and hard work would go to waste, as no scientist would take you seriously...
     
  8. Pascal Halbherr Registered Member

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    Toroidal vibration=spinning toroid, precessional
    Divine Symmetry: toroidal symmetry
     
  9. Pascal Halbherr Registered Member

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    Well, all math on earth dont explain why we see inverse symmetry in ferrocell vs iron filings
     
  10. Pascal Halbherr Registered Member

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    So we need new math, thats where I hope geniouses like you jump in <3
     
  11. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    Are you sure about that? It does not seem like that big of an issue to understand how the ferrocell reacts to a magnetic field.
     
  12. NotEinstein Valued Senior Member

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    Something that's spinning isn't vibrating, so you are contradicting yourself.

    What is divine about toroids?

    Except that QED (the quantum theory that describes magnetics) is the most accurate theory ever created; it can make predictions accurate up to 12 digits. You claim that QED cannot explain this; please proof that claim.

    But first you have to prove that it's worth the investment of time. Just some hand-wavy pictures aren't good enough. That's also part of the "as no scientist would take you seriously" bit.
     
  13. Pascal Halbherr Registered Member

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    I wanted to introduce you to unknown territory. Up to you to give it a chance. I just seek interaction with my fellow like-minded. I studied biochemistry, not quantum physics. Nevertheless, I think a lot about Nature and myself. You are good with numbers, I very much respect that, I am good with pattern recognition. How about to join forces and do not fight each other instead?
     
  14. Pascal Halbherr Registered Member

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    I ask myself for example, why is there opposed spins visible when permanent magnet is viewed through ferrocell? Do we associate permanent magnets with spin?
     
  15. NotEinstein Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not very familiar with the field; I was under the impression maths were used there as well?

    Only if you are willing to completely reject your own ideas if they turn out to be wrong.

    And have you actually tried answering that question with mainstream science? I mean, really tried it. Because pretty much everything dealing with magnetism has been explained already.
     
  16. NotEinstein Valued Senior Member

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    Let's go through some of your slides.
    Slide 1: This title slide mentions "divine symmetry", a term often used by quacks. Let's hope it's used better here.
    Slide 2: Dark matter isn't such a big mystery anymore, so the sentence below the slide should read "96%" but "75%". But it's not clear what this has to do with magnetism.
    Slide 3: Light is electromagnetism, so that one doesn't belong in the list. Electricity and magnetism are the same (electromagnetism), so those could be combined. The list is also missing many energies, such as rest mass.
    Slide 4: Makes the claim that toroidal symmetry isn't thought (in schools): this is false. Toroidal symmetries just happen not to be very important in physics, so they aren't the main focus.
    Slide 5: (Nice pictures!)
    Slide 6: (Video's)
    Slide 7: Claims that there are still hidden symmetries in magnetism. This is false; Maxwell's equations have been demonstrated to be adequate to describe all (classical) magnetostatic effects. This appears to be an argument from ignorance.
    Slide 8: "Magnetic vibrations" of a permanent magnet? There is nothing vibrating in those pictures!
    Slide 9: Suggests that fingerprints (the ridges) are caused by magnets, which is false. Biology explains fingerprints quite nicely without the use of magnetism.
    Slide 10: Yes, electricity is quite essential for humans to be alive. But magnets, no so much.
    Slide 11: Technically wrong, as the E- and B-fields don't have to have a 90 degrees angle (when going through a medium, I believe). This slide also suggests the fjords in Norway were created by lightning or some other electric discharge, which is obviously false.
    Slide 12: Some arbitrary pictures about fractals, vortices, and more. Not sure how this is relevant to magnetism?

    Edit: Actually, I missed an important thing: the picture on the title slide is not of a toroidal field. (And this picture is repeated throughout the slides.)
     
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  17. Pascal Halbherr Registered Member

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    Sure, I am a flexible mind. If you can help me prove wrong, I have no hard feelings. I stand for truth, which ever it will be!
    I am scientist by heart.
     
  18. Pascal Halbherr Registered Member

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    ... the way you word your sentence, doesnt feel good. Quite hurting..
     
  19. NotEinstein Valued Senior Member

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    That is not my intention, sorry.
     
  20. Pascal Halbherr Registered Member

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    Hey community,
    Whoever is interested, watch it, whoever isnt, dont watch it.

    All the best to everyone <3
    Pascal
     
  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Which suggests that there are two states of magenetism.

    I'll give this a shot in the dark......

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    A dynamic Electro/Magnetic field;
    a) A dynamical state where flowing electric current creates a perpendicular magnetic field, which in turn creates a perpendicular electric field, which .....etc.
    Seems to me a form of quarter-spin action.

    A static Magnetic field;
    b) all atom are statically aligned in one direction (joined by opposing poles of the atoms), which causes a negatively charged terminal at one end and an positively charged terminal at the other end. Positive and negative attract each other, thus any conductive material bridging these poles will create an positive to negative attractive force joining, which holds the bridge tightly bound to both poles.

    This can be demonstrated by grounding a dynamic electrical system (house wiring) to "bleed" off any static electricity (magnetism?), created during dynamical use of Electric current.

    Not being an electrcician, I am not sure if this scenario is correct , but may draw some comment from more "learned minds"......

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  22. NotEinstein Valued Senior Member

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    If it conforms with Maxwell's equations, it's correct, and if it doesn't, it isn't. One thing I do know is that there only is one type of magnetic field: the electromagnetic field. It describes all known static and dynamic situations perfectly.
     
  23. Pascal Halbherr Registered Member

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    Thank you for positive thinking <3

    I think in the direction of a). As in Di-electric (imaginary capacitor) potential can be discharged into electric flow, so the dielectric potential and magnetic/electric field are in resonance, continually oscillating.
     

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