What will be the most important invention in the military of the next century!

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  1. Hypercane Sustained Winds at Mach One Registered Senior Member

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    Actually more and more of ships are planes developed in DARPA are being tested upon if they are actually not so susceptable to radar. Stealth is becoming more numerous nowadays. I have heard that people are developing a new kind of weapon, something revolutionary, but not to worry, I'll bet we wont see that until the dawn of the next war.
     
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  3. d3u5_3x_m4ch1n4 Registered Member

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    One thing you can count on is more chemical and biological weapons. Crippling diseases and deadly plagues. They're pretty stealthy (damn near invisible), and easy to sneak into a country.
     
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  5. d3u5_3x_m4ch1n4 Registered Member

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    I wonder if scientists and the military will ever implement bio-mechanical augmentation, similar to Deus Ex. Augmentations already exist, but they are Exo-Skeletal and bulky.......what we would need would be a non-toxic material that contracts when electrified. The material would be implanted beside, in or beneath muscle tissue. Since the body uses electricity to stimulate muscles, the more sensitive the material, the "stronger" the person would be. It would be a bonus if the material were hard, as it would also provide protection for the body.
     
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  7. Stokes Pennwalt Nuke them from orbit. Registered Senior Member

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    You're talking about piezoelectrics. We already use them to guide artillery shells (see the US Army's Copperhead and US Navy's FASTHAWK).

    Also, bio and chem weapons are both pretty useless tactically. All they're good for is creating a big unpredictable mess, which at best can be employed as an area denial weapon. There's not a lot of predictability to their behavior, which makes them difficult to work with from a military standpoint. Great terror weapons though, I suppose, if you're into that.
     
  8. d3u5_3x_m4ch1n4 Registered Member

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  9. kmguru Staff Member

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    RADAR could give way to other type of sensors to detect Stealth planes. A hyperspectral sensor array could do the trick.
     
  10. Gravity Deus Ex Machina Registered Senior Member

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    Virally behaving programmable nano-bots, dump a vial out at a boarder - over the next few days everybody who fits their programmed target profile dies.
     
  11. erich_knight Erich J. Knight Registered Senior Member

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    Dear Folks, I think Hydrogen-boron micro fusion may be the most important.
    Below is a letter I recently recieved from Clint Seward of Electron Power Systems http://www.electronpowersystems.com .

    The applications, across such a broad spectrum, deserve your attention. Delphi.....Wow!

    "An independent consulting group in Washington,DC has just reviewed our
    technology for the Office of the Secretary of Defense. They just sent me a
    draft for comments, and I have included it below. It is based on their
    having talked with our technology partners.

    Since it is a full page of technical detail before the conclusion, I have
    copied the conclusion here first so you get the idea of their review.

    "MIT considers these plasmas a revolutionary breakthrough, with Delphi's
    chief scientist and senior manager for advanced technology both agreeing
    that EST/SPT physics are repeatable and theoretically explainable. MIT and
    EPS have jointly authored numerous professional papers describing their
    work. (Delphi is a $33B company, the spun off Delco Division of General
    Motors).

    Revolutionary Impact: High - reliable generation and acceleration of these
    plasmas using compact mobile machinery could provide US forces with a unique
    generic defense against ballistic and cruise missiles, manned and unmanned
    aircraft, and kinetic-energy projectiles of all sizes, velocities and
    compositions."

    Please let me klnow what you think.

    Clint


    Technology Review of Electron Power Systems (by an independent consulting
    group) for Office Of The Secretary Of Defense July 2004

    Technology Title: Electron spiral toroids (EST) as kinetic-energy weapons
    (KEWs)

    Development Organization: Electron Power Systems, Inc., Acton, Mass.

    Description: EPS teamed with MIT's Plasma Science and Fusion Center under an
    STTR grant to develop a theoretical framework and laboratory methods for
    reliably creating small (0.5-1.0 cm diameter) self-organized plasmas, called
    "electron spiral toroids" (ESTs) or "spiral plasma toroids" (SPTs). EST
    electrons travel in parallel orbits around a torus in densities sufficient
    to create a stable, self-sustaining internal magnetic field. These novel
    laboratory-level plasmas, whose physics resembles that of ball lightning,
    are unusual in that they remain stable in partial atmospheres without
    requiring external magnetic fields for their containment, yet can also be
    accelerated in a directed fashion to potentially very high velocities (e.g.,
    600 km/sec) and kinetic energies. Parallel work on formation and magnetic
    acceleration of "compact toroids" is also underway at DoE's Livermore lab
    and at Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) at Kirtland AFB, NM, although
    these plasmas - which can only exist in vacuum - require large (multi-meter
    long) machinery that uses magnetic field pressures associated with "Tokamak"
    fusion reactors to create large-diameter (0.5-1.0 meter) plasmas, which must
    then be greatly reduced in diameter and volume to be useful. By contrast,
    EPS uses much smaller, cheaper hardware to repeatably generate
    high-ion-density plasmas that have remained stable in air for up to 0.6
    seconds at 1-Torr atmospheric pressures. The EPS/MIT work has drawn interest
    from MDA and DTRA for DEW/KEW applications and from Delphi Corporation, a
    major automotive electronics firm, which envisions an automotive mini-fusion
    reactor that would collide two small toroids generated by 1-meter-long
    "neutron tubes" and capture the heat from their collision.

    Potential Operational Payoff: used as KEWs, even a tiny (microscopic-scale)
    EST would generate enough kinetic energy to destroy any military vehicle or
    projectile operating in the atmosphere, including solid-rod anti-armor
    penetrators. These charge-neutral plasmas would be produced in large numbers
    in rapid succession to form a steerable beam. Impact velocities of 600
    km/sec, possibly several times higher, may be possible, based on MIT's
    extrapolation of AFRL's compact-toroid acceleration experiments for vacuum.

    Metrics:
    - Effects: target destruction by kinetic impacts far above hyper velocities
    (defined by the speed of sound in metal and nonmetal targets)
    - Speed: up to 600 km/sec (MIT estimate), possibly up to 2000 km/sec (EPS
    estimate)
    - Range: endoatmospheric line-of-sight up to space/atmosphere boundary
    (officially defined as 62 miles)
    - Power requirements: EPS proposes using EST mini-fusion reactors, whose
    initial power could be provided by a car battery, to produce and accelerate
    its ESTs.

    Cost: no cost data available. The complexity of reliable mini-toroid
    formation and acceleration with compact, relatively low-cost equipment
    remains to be determined. Yet the fact that the EPS/MIT STTR work this
    technology has attracted interest from Delphi is very significant, as the
    automotive electronics industry is considered to be extremely demanding of
    functionality per dollar and pound (e.g., mil-spec performance at
    Wal-Mart-class 'commodity' prices).

    Estimated Development Funding, FY 2005-2011 (combined KEW, mini-reactor)
    - appr. $2M so far (Army Research Office, NASA SBIR, NASA-IAC (Institute for
    Advanced Concepts) grant, BMDO STTR for $1M). EPS estimate: over FY
    2005-2009, would need $0.5-$1.0M/yr (not including funding for MIT support),
    but with a Phase 1 and 2 SBIR, could achieve a lab demonstration (TRL 4-5)
    within 2.5-3 years of a proof-of-principle device that hits targets with
    visible kinetic damage. Industrial co-funding from strategic partners
    (agreements with Raytheon, Delphi (formerly GM Delco) and Titan Pulse Power)
    could accelerate this.
    -MIT estimate: with adequate staff and facilities funding ("at least
    $2-$5M/year"), could demonstrate basic physics within 2 years, followed by
    development of an integratable engineering package.

    TRL 3-4. MIT considers these plasmas a revolutionary breakthrough, with
    Delphi's chief scientist and senior manager for advanced technology both
    agreeing that EST/SPT physics are repeatable and theoretically explainable.
    MIT and EPS have jointly authored numerous professional papers describing
    their work.

    Revolutionary Impact: High - reliable generation and acceleration of these
    plasmas using compact mobile machinery could provide US forces with a unique
    generic defense against ballistic and cruise missiles, manned and unmanned
    aircraft, and kinetic-energy projectiles of all sizes, velocities and
    compositions."


    After reviewing your postings I thought you may be interested.

    Thanks for your attention

    Erich J. Knight
    Shenandoah Gardens
    1047 Dave Berry Rd. McGaheysville, VA, 22840
    (540) 289-9750
     
  12. Hideki Matsumoto ñ{ìñÇÃóùâ?ÇÕêSÇÃíÜÇ©ÇÁóàÇ ÈÅB Registered Senior Member

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    The next great invention for combat will be cloned soliders that have no fear, and live to kill others. They will have 3 setttings (disable, defend and hunt.) WOn't the US army be happen then?
     
  13. cato less hate, more science Registered Senior Member

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    This is only my 3rd post but if you want to know my theory of a future weapon then here goes.

    They are playing around with rail guns mounted on battle ships to hit targets like 600 miles away(I think). To hit said target they shoot a tungsten projectile with some onboard guidance out of earth’s atmosphere and have it guided into the target by satellite(because they are not real accurate).

    Why not just make your rail gun bigger/more powerful, station the gun within the US and fire projectiles into low orbit in order to strike anyplace on the planet from the comfort of some place like NORAD
     
  14. Urgat Registered Member

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    there is another version about Kursk.
    there were 2 american submarines that spied on Kursk. One of them came to close to it and there was collision with Kursk. Second submarine recieved a signal about attack from dameged one and fire 2 torpedos at Kursk. you ask me why they cut off a head part of Kursk??? cause there are traces from that 2 torpedos.
     
  15. Csel Poiuy Registered Member

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    well the future will hold rail and coil guns, emp weapons, nanoweapons, active camoflage, and bio/viral weapons.
     
  16. kmguru Staff Member

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    I am designing an energy weapon for military now (no bullets), but looking for a high capacity battery until we come up a small fuel cell to power the unit.
     
  17. devils_reject Registered Senior Member

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    Leaving some humanity left will be the answer... and a true miracle
     
  18. dzerzhinsky Communist Registered Senior Member

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    The most effective millitary weapon would be the one which prevents the conflict in the first place, a good negotiator. Cheap, effective, and available in large numbers.
     
  19. erich_knight Erich J. Knight Registered Senior Member

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    To get biggest kick the quickest use one of Beacon Power's flywheels http://www.beaconpower.com/

    Cheers,
    erich
     
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