When am I not human anymore?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Beer w/Straw, Jan 28, 2018.

  1. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    "People also ask

    Can a person who is brain dead recovery?

    Mechanical support (a breathing machine) keeps oxygen going to the organs until they can be recovered for transplant. The machine is not keeping the patient alive (brain death is irreversible and is legally and medically recognized as death), it is merely keeping the organs viable until they can be recovered."

    Are, or should it be lawful to give less rights to a person who has some brain eating disease? Could there be stages?

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    Oh yeah, the horrible thing that feasts on your soul!

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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You have asked several not-mutually exclusive questions.

    Even when you are dead, you are still human.
    What legal rights you might have are dependent on your life versus death, not on your being human.

    What specific question did you want addressed?
     
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  5. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    If you are quantified by your brain cells and you have the neocortex the size of a dog, is killing you murder or cruelty to animals, so to say?

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    Oh, and as to the amoeba, the brain cells are a quantification of who you are or as a person and "watching" something slowly eating YOU and living it its feaces that was YOU! That'd make a cool horror flick and I'm stoned right now.

    http://www.funscience.in/study-zone/...onInAmoeba.php
     
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  7. river

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    Comparing Human neocortex to a dog neocortex is non-sense .
     
  8. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    The amoeba is eating your brain!
     
  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You are human, but brain dead. That does not make you an animal.
    Murder is a separate issue, defined by laws and the mores of society.
    If we decide that stopping life support on a vegetative human is not murder, then not murder it is.
     
  10. river

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    Is it , my neo-cortex begs to differ .
     
  11. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I shot and killed some random dude that had the neocortex the same size as a gold fish's, what should happen to me?

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    Or, better yet, what does happen to me?
     
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  12. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You would be arrested for murder.
     
  13. geordief Registered Senior Member

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    The victims of the holocaust who were found still alive were described as being in a half human state.

    Amazingly it was also said that in a few weeks they seemed to get back to their old selves .

    This looks like an interesting film(but I haven't seen it except for excerpts)

     
  14. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    If I person was born with one brain cell would it still be murder to kill them?
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Are you this patient's doctor? No?
    Then yes, it would be.
    (Note: you did say 'person'. There's a hint.)

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  16. river

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    How would this be possible in the first place ?
     
  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Anencephaly.
     
  18. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Has there been an instance where laws are specifically rewritten that affect crime and punishment, or whatever in a case?
     
  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    The doctor of this patient, and its parents, are the only ones who get to make that decision. Yes, it is law.
     
  20. river

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    As I suspected , the child would not survive .

    Thanks Dave
     
  21. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Doesn't that kinda' mean it's a piece of property and not human, so to say?
     
  22. river

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    If this child does survive , is it cruelty ?
     
  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No. Parents and doctors have always been responsible for the health and welfare of infants. They make decisions because infants can't.
     
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