where is the airliner crash debris in the 911 Pentagon attack?

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  1. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Did you see all those arrows!!!!!!!

    I mean with that many RED arrows how could it be wrong!!?!?!?!?!?!
     
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  3. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    There wasn't even a frikkin' plane in the video!!
     
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  5. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Then there couldn't have been one hitting the building! Conspiracy revealed!
     
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  7. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    I saw lots of pixels, maybe it was some sorta pixel bomb?
     
  8. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Of course! That's why...no one saw the bombs being installed. Uh...a pixel bomb! That's it!
     
  9. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Yes! the planes didnt exist ....nothing existed....it was all..a...illusion caused by a......thermopixular device...weapon of mass Resolution!
     
  10. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    lol!!!
     
  11. geistkiesel Valued Senior Member

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    Finally, some sanity in this thread.:shrug:
     
  12. geistkiesel Valued Senior Member

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    Discussions similar to this thread are occurring from sea to shining sea, yet no major players recognize the existence of this "difference of opinion". The war rages and ALL preisdential candidates, members of Congress or the Joint Chiefs have never commented on this subject matter, to either side of the debate, nor will any of them reveal their true identity by pulling their head out of their asses.

    The "Manchurian Candidate" for President has beeb the most ouspoken for maintaining the "surges" in the violence. The old folks reading this thread will recognize the erstehile characterization of this policy as "escalation" of the war. Well at least there has been an advancement in the language of "enhanced and accelerated confrontaional foreign policy". I know I sure understand the complexities much more clearly these days.
     
  13. geistkiesel Valued Senior Member

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    Por favor, mon ami, where did you get the "500 - 600 mph" speed for the "impacting airplane? And what a super pilot that Islamic Suicidal Maniac, to whom the flight simulator instructors refused to qualify as competent to fly a Cessna 172, huh? :shrug:
     
  14. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    What is so difficult about flying a plane that is already in the air, and lining it up with a building, and hitting said building?

    As for the speed of the 767, it is capable of doing 515 kts. The limiting speed (VNE, velocity not exceed) for a Boeing 767 is 954 km/h (593 mph / 516 knots)

    "UA175 Aircraft" Speed Analysis



    For the purpose of this speed analysis I have assumed that the UA175 aircraft was travelling at a height of approximately 1000 feet at the time of impact and that the air temperature was approximately 20 degrees Celsius at that altitude. Under these environmental conditions the speed of sound (Mach 1.0) would occur approximately at 767 mph or 666 knots. Here is a list of UA175 speeds issued from official bodies that were presumably calculated using video footage of the WTC2 strike:

    Massachusetts Institute of Technology - 503 mph / 436 knots / M0.653

    British Royal Air Force - 575 mph / 500 knots / M0.750

    Federal Aviation Administration - 586 mph / 510 knots / M0.765

    National Institute of Standards and Technology - 546 mph / 475 knots / M0.714

    Federal Emergency Management Agency - 590 mph / 514 knots / M0.771

    http://www.911research.dsl.pipex.com/ggua175/speed/
     
  15. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    As for WTC 7 there were no casualties from WTC 7, it was evacuated in the hour before the collapse of WTC 1 and 2, so how does WTC 7 with its lack of casualties figure into 9/11?

    9-11 Research: Building 7
    Building 7 (also known as WTC 7) was a 47-story skyscraper that stood on the ... The area around the building was evacuated in the hour before the collapse. ...
    http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.html
     
  16. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    CIA, DoD, and Secret Service building. It also just happened to be the NYC Emergency Management building as well.

    - N
     
  17. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    And there was a McDonalds there.

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  18. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    How unhealthy!

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  19. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    The only thing unhealthier than their food was their evil plotting. Ronald McChimpy.
     
  20. geistkiesel Valued Senior Member

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    The so called, pilot's, flight simulator instructors would not certify the Pentagon Pilot to fly a Cessna 172. The question was addressed to Superluminal and concerned the Pentagon attack.

    The alleged flight path of the Pentagon 757 was originallty headed for another part of the building - supposedly where some high ranking generals were officed. The plane must have made something close to a 180 degree turn, dropped altitude, lined up with the ultimate target, flying the last few hundred meters skimming just above ground and then imp0acting thye building. Some experienced pilots have claimed that highly trained fighter pilots would have been strained to fly so well.

    The condition was far more complicated than your question, especially if all of this was conducted at 500 knots plus.

    The question which you have answered here was addressed to Superluminal and concerned the scenario at the pentagon, however, we shall continue.

    The "presumably calculated" staement is interesting but sheer speculation. Likewise, the errors in calculation are significant, whatever the method of determining the speed.

    Likewise from the point of alleged sky-jacking incident to the wtc requires navigation and from the flight altitude of over 35,000 feet it requires more than looking out the window.:shrug:
     
  21. geistkiesel Valued Senior Member

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    The Mayor knew it was going to collapse, beforehand.

    Yesd indeed, Mayor Guiliani and staff were notified one hour before the building collapsed, in freefall, straight down, mirroring a controlled demolition exactly, that the building was going to collapse.:shrug:Go figure.
     
  22. geistkiesel Valued Senior Member

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    The devices weren't bombs, they were explosive devices. The persons who installed the bombs certainly saw them. Perhaps you are just a bit insulted because you wern't consulted.

    I notice an excess of one liner giggling [attempted] humorous offerings here, as if 911 was something funny, or as if this rank use of the language was serving any useful purpose. I suppose also that you would complain to the nth degree if some objective official panel (on a technical level as the National Transportation and Safety Board) was assembled to investigate the matter - all with plenary powrs of subpoena of witnesses and questioning them under oath. But as we all know the bulk of the physical evidence was hurriedly shipped off to who knows where, Asia, by most accounts.

    This destruction of evidence is very helpful to those maintaining the official version of 911 as there are no limits to the analytical speculations that can be, and are, freely substituted for a rational analysis using actual evidence accumulated and properly stored and documented.

    You people must have been traiuned as American Journalists, hell, just make it up as you go, saves on all that boring research and all such silliness.
     
  23. geistkiesel Valued Senior Member

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    Returning to your post here I have a revised answer. The question posed are good iones as they are the kin of questions that might leads to a finding of 911 as a "domestic black job". If I understand your implication here that governments find conspiracy theories convenient to cover up incompetence, then I find this thesis untenable. The questions aren't directed agt governmental incompetence, they are directed at the possibility of high level invovement in a conspiracy.

    Are yopu suggesting that those askibng the questions may have some i8nsight or actual information regarding what the answers are? And that thios oinformation gives those persons, that is the ones accusing others of invovlement in a 911 conspiracy of some kind of head rush in the sense of getting a feeling of power becuase they are privy, by analysis, or in actual possession of evidence and data establishing the high probability of a conspiracy by government officials?

    Most, if not all, conspiracy information is on the Internet, available to all with a desire to look. Those having no 'conspiracy information' simply do not look, are not in an audience that is targeted to recieve the information, have no access to objectrive news outlets, and who, if ever in an audience where the matter is being presented, would be abhorred to consider that the President, for instance, might possibly be America's most butal criminal, ever!

    :shrug:
     
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