Who is the agent inside each of us that's make decisions?

This is not on the top of my list of priorities just a hoby I had since childhood I mostly put it on the back burner and set up an autopilot program to work out the grunt work well until finally late last year I made and unintended breaktrough. But I don't yet know if I want to build a whole race of them or just one as for current AI it's still excellent to have them remain atomatons in specialist task because that's sort of like free labour without the ethics problem.

 

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But the first step before we actually build these machines is to understand human consciousness first we must define the "operator" of freewill.

 

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We can use human biengs as lab rats and test their behaviour for consistency of the theory but I have figured most of that out already I want a machine that uses minimal programming I don't really believe in the idea of automations as conscious, they are not its just a simulation. But I want machines that can develop a personality without that massive amount of programming and that insight must be strictly modelled from a human bieng first.

 

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At any rate the specialize machines are already a reality and these have more practical uses anyways.

 

Nano-tech might give us the answer and the fabricated materials we may need to build them but it's just a hunch as I can pull together abstract details about what is necessary.

 

Ummmm... Why is this thread still open? Are we that desperate?

 

You don't seem to be genuine, although there may be a bit of vagueness to some of the latter post its no reason to lock this thread.

To be fair there has only been one attempted response but all my points are clearly defined and no one has even bothered to respond to any of my three points...

 

You want to build a robot with AI?

Modeled after what, a unicellular organism, or something with a brain?

 

Your opperater of free will is a little person behind the controls of a big machine that little person is you. Where is me? Cut off body parts but "me" remains. Slice away and you find your exact location in your head. Is that the part you want to place in a machine. Hey I could be a car.

 

procrastinators anonymous
great idea
but
no one could decide if they actually wanted to attend the meetings

 

I do not procrastinate as I allways put it off until some other time.

 

Procrastinate!

Now!!

 

The seat of consciousness is your brain. There is no 'operator', if by operator you mean something outside of your brain, like a soul or something. If you receive a head trauma or lobotomy, your personality can completely change. If you have hormones injected into you it can also change your personality and perception. If you ingest chemicals you can act in ways that may be completely counter to your 'normal' actions. Bottom line if you change your brain chemistry or neural pathways you will change who you are. Your brain is the driver - just that simple.

By the way you do not need to create a new post for each paragraph. What's up with that?

 

I type with a pad no key board plus I have an app that 'corrects' things particularly correct words I simply shudder when I read my posts back. I often feel like correcting it but I have to do something so I dont. I worry what must that look like but then do nothing.
I think what we are all asked to find is an answer already determined before this post was made.
Does the author have a view or a predetermined answer to the original question.
Were we being led somewhere perhaps to a predetermined conclusion.
I am still not sure what it is you are suggesting.

 

An operator outside of consciousness - food.

I worked on that idea for under two seconds whilst my cat was looking at me.

 

Sorry Origin I was typing the above.
Indeed you are correct.
Thats a worry for our machines we need whole brains.
The OP may have an answer, here is one I have already made.

 

The cat had control of your brain for two seconds..
Thats all they need.
Please say hi to your cat. I miss my cat.
Cant think straight without the cat in control I am lost.
It always knew what to do.

 

Human.

 

I noticed some of the things was mentioned in another thread where Billy T made some excellent comments but in my opinion he is actually supporting the existence of a soul without realizing it.

 

I'll put in my rwo cents worth. I'll address only the OP question. It seems to me this conversation has become much too complicated.

IMO, the *agent* is our mirror neural network (MNN) which compares and interprets our observation with available knowledge and the product of this process is a form of holographic cognition (visualization) in our mind.

Something like: while reading a book, we observe a sequence of alphabetic symbols (forms). Suppose a sentence (sequence of symbolic alphabetical representations) starts with a /-\.
Our MNN wil compare this to its knowledge of the alphabet and will process the information. It may come up with a solutiom of an H or an A. Now the next symbol consists of a squiggly *S*.
When the MNN processes the S, it then asks itself if is familiar with a word that consists of HS and finds that no such single sequence exist in it's memory. But the MNN is familiar with the word AS. This will prompt the MNN to intuitively produce the holographic image of the word "AS" as the most probable solution to the observed symbols.

I recently saw a sentence which started with "\/\/ill you" and that made no sense, until I recognized that this was an approximation of the capital letter *W* and the sentence read "Will you ............"

Thus I would propose that the MNN is the active agent in sorting the available information against its internal library and presents its best guess as the completed mental image of the object to our conscious frontal lobe for its meaning and what action needs to be performed. In this case the action to be performed is to *read on* and find out what this image AS refers to, because it knows the word AS has to be followed by the identification of what this AS refers to. So we read on.

This may be a very simplistic explanation but it seems to me, *thinking* and *visualizing* may well be a relatively simple operation, not unlike a spell-checker in AI, which will prompt us with "do you mean *this word* or *that word*? when it does not recognize the way a word is spelled.