Discussion in 'World Events' started by James R, Jan 8, 2021.
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Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes has been found guilty of seditious conspiracy.
The implications are massive. What everyone will be seeking so anxiously in coming days is to understand the connections between the conspirators and Donald Trump.
Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes was convicted Tuesday of seditious conspiracy for a violent plot to overturn Democrat Joe Biden’s presidential win, handing the Justice Department a major victory in its massive prosecution of the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection.
A Washington, D.C., jury found Rhodes guilty of sedition after three days of deliberations in the nearly two-month-long trial that showcased the far-right extremist group’s efforts to keep Republican Donald Trump in the White House at all costs.
The trial revealed new details about Rhodes’ efforts to pressure Trump to fight to stay in White House in the weeks leading up to Jan. 6. Shortly after the election, in a group chat that included Stone called “FOS” or “Friends of Stone,” Rhodes wrote, “So will you step up and push Trump to FINALLY take decisive action?”
Another man testified that after the riot, Rhodes tried to persuade him to pass along a message to Trump that urged the president not to give up his fight to hold onto power. The intermediary — a man who told jurors he had an indirect way to reach the president — recorded his meeting with Rhodes and went to the FBI instead of giving the message to Trump.
“If he’s not going to do the right thing and he’s just gonna let himself be removed illegally then we should have brought rifles,” Rhodes said during that meeting, according to a recording played for jurors. “We should have fixed it right then and there. I’d hang (expletive) Pelosi from the lamppost,” Rhodes said, referring to Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Whitehurst, Lindsay, Alanna Durkin Richer, and Michael Kunzelman. "Oath Keepers boss guilty of seditious conspiracy in 1/6 case". Associated Press. 29 November 2022. APNews.com. 29 November 2022. http://bit.ly/3P1H6al
So the committee has encouraged charges be made against Trump.
I must admit I am impressed by how Trump has been able to avoid his president-ial vows so far and how many so called patriots have supported him. I guess he will get away with it all ...again.
just an idle curiosity
How many agent provocateurs were in the crowd that invaded the US capitol building?
Which branch/agency were they part of?
There were none. As you already know, the entire thing was personally planned and executed by Biden himself out of a pizza restaurant.
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A former FBI agent, whose work included the Benghazi investigation, face four misdemeanor counts for his actions during the January 6 attack against the U.S. Capitol. Jared L. Wise worked for the Bureau for thirteen years, and, per the New York Times↱, left "after his supervisors became unhappy with his work, and his career had stalled".
Mr. Wise, 50, told the police they were like the Gestapo, Nazi Germany's feared secret police, the complaint said. When violence erupted, he shouted in the direction of rioters attacking the law enforcement officers, "Kill 'em! Kill 'em! Kill 'em!" ....
.... Mr. Wise later joined the conservative group Project Veritas under the supervision of a former British spy, Richard Seddon, who had been recruited by the security contractor Erik Prince to train operatives to infiltrate trade unions, Democratic congressional campaigns and other targets.
At Project Veritas, according to a former employee with direct knowledge of his employment, Mr. Wise used the code name Bendghazi and trained at the Prince family ranch in Wyoming with other recruits. Mr. Wise took part in an operation against a teachers' union and apparently left Project Veritas in mid-2018, the former employee said.
I say toss a coin on the weird PV/Prince connection. Heads, hey, we have a link in some grand conspiracy. Tails, nah, he's just another former law enforcer who never really was capable of figuring it out. Actually, it's not even a toss. This joker isn't smart enough to be part of a conspiracy. He's also not smart enough to not participate in an insurrection. But he was smart enough to be a law enforcer. Okay, barely, but still.
Goldman, Adam and Alan Feuer. "Former F.B.I. Agent Charged in Jan. 6 Riot". The New York Times. 3 May 2023. NYTimes.com. 3 May 2023. https://bit.ly/3Vy2LtY
Reporter Scott MacFarlane↱ observes:
Among the Jan 6 defendants who are on the calendar for hearings today in DC federal court:
A former Chicago police officer
A former "Bob's Burgers" actor
A former US President
The Department of Justice continues to pursue Wednesday Putsch suspects; Kyle Cheney↱ notes, "Edward Richmond, Jr., a new Jan. 6 defendant charged w/ assaulting cops at the Capitol, was previously convicted of manslaughter in Iraq."
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