Why did God say: Let us give Satan to mankind?

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  1. karenmansker HSIRI Banned

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    Only if it is a book of truths . . . . . hey, Alex . . . . . ALL hypotheses (crazy or not) start-out with . . . . ."What if?" (or possibly, "In the beginning . . . . .!")
     
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  3. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Perfect title thanks again.
    Alex
     
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  5. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    Xelasnave.1947
    i am a firm believer, due to my experience and observations, that we are living in a universe that is wholly contained within the excrement (or a fart particle) being secreted by some large scavenger in a macro-universe we will never be able to imagine or see... mostly because we will kill each other off violently before we ever get the opportunity to explore our galaxy... and that will happen because some anti=gun nut-job will ban all the guns and then a worse criminal nut-job who doesn't obey laws anyway will then, subsequently, kill off the nut-jobs that are unarmed because he leads the only people who are armed, causing some horrendous Armageddon that stimulates one anti-gun person to create a super-virus that makes all life permanently dead before anything can evolve an immunity because guns are bad

    and that is my optimistic perspective
    the more likely scenario is far worse...

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  7. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    May I offer you an opportunity to co author a book, now it has to come across religious so we get some tax advantages.
    Alex
     
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  8. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    i can start a 501(c)3 here easily making it a tax free donation and protecting us from taxes as well... is there something similar there, or should we set up off-shore accounts?

    LOL
     
  9. Oystein Registered Senior Member

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    I didn't have to read any more than that . . .

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  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Did you just pray?
     
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  11. Oystein Registered Senior Member

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    Yes. To Crom and Mitra.
     
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  12. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    about the OP itself...
    i prefer to use epicurian logic on that one
    http://strangenotions.com/wp-content/uploads/Epicurus1.jpg

    the problem with the OP is this... in order to answer the question, one must first make the assumption that satan exists, and as such, one must accept the abrahamic and christian philosophies as being factual or true... so when it is posted that
    you have to assume this is legitimate before you can speculate about the answer...

    but what if there is no satan?
    what if the construct of "evil" is simply a human personification of things they simply don't like?

    so when you say:
    there can be multiple answers starting first with god and satan absolutely must be the same deity, but different aspects and ending with there is no god or satan and therefore this question is nonsensical

    as stated above -
    i prefer viewing this from epicurian logic: http://strangenotions.com/wp-content/uploads/Epicurus1.jpg

    the simple fact that this is debated is indicative of there being no god at all as well as demonstrative of our own anthropomorphism
     
  13. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    There is I believe something but I really dont know.
    Off shore? Can I have an island?
    Alex
     
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  14. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Look at any seed.

    Do you think that it expends energy to develop to be the least it can be or the best it can be?

    I see them as expending energy to live, not die as living is the best possible end for any life and all life seeks to be the fittest of its kind.

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    DL
     
  15. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Hence my use of the word "inadvertently".

    Do not have such a petty mind and recognize that man anthropomorphises many things.

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    DL
     
  16. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Any other extended consciousness or cosmic consciousness is just wishful thinking or speculative nonsense unless that entity makes contact with us.

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    DL
     
  17. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    I do not think nature needs to improve. I think humans do.

    Belief in nature is good. Belief in a supernatural God is idol worship along with moral and intellectual dissonance and is evil.

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    DL
     
  18. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps.

    What was this deflection meant to accomplish for you?

    Are you not aware that both science and religions have now created their Gods of the Gaps and hid them to a time before the big bang?

    So who do you want to believe? Science or religions?

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    DL
     
  19. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    All biblical characters are fiction and fantasy.

    In esoteric terms, what the bible shows in its stories are metaphors for what happens in our minds as we seek wht Jung and Freud call our Father Complex.

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    DL
     
  20. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Classic anthropomorphism

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  21. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Which is still anthropomorphism

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  22. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Then we would be talking reality and not fantasy.

    I am interested in the fantasy at present but you are correct in that evil is subjective and based on what we like.

    No supernatural God, I agree.

    Scriptures have always been about anthropomorphism of the Gods. As above, so below.

    In my Gnostic Christian tradition, we see Jesus as an archetypal good man regardless of whether a real biblical type Jesus ever lived or not.

    The fact is that that Jesus is not here now so should be considered dead the same way all our ancient ones are dead.

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    DL
     
  23. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    And you are a classic unintelligent type who cannot read.

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    DL
     

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