Why do theists reject evolution?

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  1. river

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    And biology makes minerals .
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Sometimes it does, yes.
     
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  5. river

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    Yes Biology does .
     
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  7. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    That is quite a bold statement...

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    Matter is not the smallest value. There are values which are not matter.
    Consider this ;
    Quantum mechanics is the branch of physics relating to the very small.
    https://www.livescience.com/33816-quantum-mechanics-explanation.html

    Sorry river, I would not presume to dismiss Quantum Mechanics. I am not qualified to make such a definitive declaration. Moreover, QM seems perfectly compatible with my POV.

    AFAIK, none of my propositions argue against mainstream science.
     
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  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Right, minerals make biology and biology makes additional minerals.

    This is one of Hazen's topics in the video @ Simons Foundation.

    That's what evolution (by natural selection) is all about....

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    And debunks the concept of "irreducible complexity" (by divine creation).....

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  9. river

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    theoretical physicist and one of the key pioneers of quantum mechanics. He published his work in 1925 in a breakthrough paper. In the subsequent series of papers with Max Born and Pascual Jordan, during the same year, this matrix formulation of quantum mechanics was substantially elaborated. He is known for the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, which he published in 1927. Heisenberg was awarded the 1932 Nobel Prize in Physics "for the creation of quantum mechanics".[4]
    “I think that modern physics has definitely decided in favor of Plato. In fact the smallest units of matter are not physical objects in the ordinary sense; they are forms, ideas which can be expressed unambiguously only in mathematical language.” ― Werner Heisenberg

    I'm sure you have heard of Heisenberg. That's the point river.......

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    I know . Yet true , nevertheless

    From my post#659

    They were wrong Write4U . The whole lot of them .

    The smallest units of matter are Physical Real Objects . Nothing is the consequence of this thinking becoming something . Which is not possible . Something can never transform into nothing .
     
  10. river

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    Life manipulates the periodic table into forms , which otherwise would not exist .
     
  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    All extant forms (patterns) in nature are a product of evolution.
     
  12. river

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    Evolution of what , exactly ?
     
  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Everything....

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  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Bullshit as usual. The elements were formed long before Abiogenesis and evolution started.
     
  16. river

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    Evolution of Life Write4U .
     
  17. river

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    Agreed . The Earth has been around longer than Life on Earth .

    Life has been around for 3 to 4 billions of years . Because of elements . Earth , on our Planet .

    Life manipulates the elements of the periodic table .
     
  18. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    How does life manipulate the elements river? What book did you grab that out of river?
     
  19. river

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    Why are some minerals important to Life ?
     
  20. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Of course mistakes are made...we all make them. But we don't all automatically reject mainstream in favour of some kook and his pseudoscience like the atomic war on Mars between Alien species you were so so adamant about. And really, not knowing that the Moon rotates on its axis is real primary school stuff river.
    Your's is a ignorant based, paranoid phobia against anything mainstream. There is no excuse for that. That's why Dave has given up on you.
     
  21. river

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    pad , you have beome a zealot of the manistream , thinking .
     
  22. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Have I? That's just what I have accused you of river.No prizes for second.

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    Mainstream is mainstream for a particular reason river.
     
  23. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Presentation of your baubles is your downfall

    Repeat

    Me see me like does not work in Science

    Nor does look what (insert latest bauble author) says

    To much to go into

    I'm bored. Going back to doing nothing. Which is actually more exciting than typing being ignored when trying to point out short comings

    I'm out

    If if if I detect a change I might be back or I might be back in interactions with other posters

    Best of luck

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