Why do theists reject evolution?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Xelasnave.1947, Apr 11, 2020.

  1. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I just have you a list of dictionary definitions.
    You can call it what you like.
    I’ll stick with Darwinism.
    Yes I have.
     
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Quite possibly. I prefer simple plain old lying, as was evident in the thread now closed.
     
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  5. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    No, you haven't.
     
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  7. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    "He could have just said he didn’t believe in evolution, or that evolution had flaws. Or, he could have said that a book with a whole unit on evolution was just too much. But William Buckingham, of the Dover Area School Board in Pennsylvania, didn’t use the “E” word when he explained his objections to the biology textbook selected by the science teachers at Dover High School. Instead, he invoked a term that didn’t even appear in that textbook. Prentice Hall’s Biology: The Living Science, he claimed, “was laced with Darwinism from beginning to end.” Surely, he must have thought, “Darwinism” was a disqualifying slander that everyone could understand."

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  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    OK. But as you yourself admit, the change from land animals to whales was evolution, and the change from a primate ancestor to humans was evolution.
     
  9. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I don’t admit nothing.
    That’s what it is titled.
    Whale “evolution”.
     
  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Of course you do! You admit to being gullible and accepting myth over science.
     
  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    That's "I don't admit anything."

    Your own words: "The idea that humans evolved from apes" "whale evolution"

    I will use your own words. You can hardly object to a definition you provided. (I mean, I know you can, but you will look like an even bigger fool.)
     
  12. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Well!

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    If you want to play that silly game be my guest.
    But it does nothing for your belief, and it shows that these ideas are anything but scientific.
    The biggest fool IMO is the the fool that says, in his heart, there is no God.
     
  13. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Even if that were the case, it’s better than the nonsense you accept over science.

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  14. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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  15. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    James, I am not trolling anything. The thread asks why theists reject evolution, and I have given my response.
    You know what I regard as evolution, namely what is termed “microevolution”. I just don’t accept the so called evidence for any change outside of that, and I’m not the only one. It’s not as though I’m a part of some little clique or minority, going against something so obvious, one would have to be a fool to reject it.
    To me this idea is more political than scientific.
    Hence the the kind of fanatical backlash people who don’t accept, get.
    It seems you just can’t let it go. You, and other proponents of this idea are intolerant of any people who disagree with you. That is evident here.
    Just let it go man! There are people who totally disagree with macroevolution, and hopefully it will die out. But if we are wrong, and somehow it turns out to be true, I will accept it. But I’m not holding my breath.

    You asked for a honest and comprehensive reply, and you got one.
    My participation in this thread, other than my initial response to the the thread, is fed by an intolerance to what I deem to be, a belief system. A materialistic philosophy that vehemently opposed to my own philosophy, and worldview. It is not about trying to show the science, or even philosophy, that trump my worldview. It is an attempt to beat down, or as Alex likes to say, crush me. But in failure to do so, becoming agitated, and aggressive, out of frustration.
     
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  16. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps state who rejects evolution so we can examine their qualifications and who they represent.
    Otherwise you make an unsupported claim.
    Who are these folk?
    Alex
     
  17. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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  18. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Mmmm not at all compelling.
    Got anything reasonable?
    Alex
     
  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Can't find their web site...is there one?
    Apex
     
  20. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Found it..Google the first name...

    Michael Egnor
    Neurosurgeon

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    Intelligent design follower.
    That says it all.
    Alex
     
  21. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Jan Ardena:

    I see that, once again, you have avoided answering my questions about your understanding of "darwinism". I think a reasonable consequence is to exclude you from posting to this thread for 1 week, to give you a chance to reconsider your response. If you cannot or will not answer my questions after being given another week to consider them, I will have to conclude that you're simply trolling. So, I urge to make an honest attempt at them.

    Good luck!
     
  22. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Dont be so silly Jan. Or alternativelly please quote what nonsense I accept over science. You can't, because you are again lying and redefining definitions.
    Unmitigated bullshit. Your participation in this and other threads is to simply spew your lies and agenda, mainly by denying the accepted fact of Darwinism and the theroy of evolution, along with the evidence for that fact that has been laid at your feet, like the fossil record, like carbon and radio dating etc.
     

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