I would say we dont. But this is a thread for the theists. I had the So what question come up in a thread with Wynn, where she says we cannot find, know or understand God. For God to have any relevance to us, he needs to effect us in some way. That is something that, if proven beyound reasonable doubt to NOT be random chance, would essentially proven SOME God. *humour ahead* However, the way I see it, God is being laid off from many Jobs. We no longer is the one to create humans, create animals, create life, create earth and the solar system. He might, just might still be the one to create the universe. His other job, everyday personal intervention, is in ruins. God is not coming in with the regularity or zest of before, when he performed miracles, magically inseminated virgins, gave revelations, controlled nature, fought evil and killed firstborns. *end of humour* So now we have to ask, did God leave us, knowing that we can care for ourselves, having become spacefarers; and is therefor irrelevant anymore or Maybe, he wasn't there all along? So - Do we need a God and Why?