@scifes -- Bullshit. Religious/spiritual moral/ethical systems have been the systems which were most besieged by fraud, deception, and generally evil behavior. Just look at the extant systems for an example of this. Is sharia law, a legal system based exclusively on islamic texts(specifically the koran and hadith), a good example of a system for "social well being"? Of course it doesn't, partially because there's no actual enforcement of his laws on the part of god. While god can provide a decent mental watch dog, it requires humans to actually enforce the social standards. @wynn -- So you're just going to gloss over the fact that LG is simply reiterating points which have already been addressed as though they hadn't been?