Why do you love God?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by NDS, Jul 11, 2008.

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Is humanity better off today than in past (hundreds of years)?

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  2. No

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  1. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    Mmmm.. you must be right then.

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  3. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    Then you should have no trouble proving evidence for the transcendent. But again, I won't be holding my breath.
     
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  5. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    I can do so but only to a receptive mind. Your hostility betrays you. Change or the Lake of Fire awaits you !
     
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  7. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    If you think the garden of eden, adam and eve, was a true story provide evidence. If you believe the jesus myth, provide evidence. You won't have any better luck than the other theists but you are welcome to try

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  8. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    regardless, if you want to address the issue of your desires, desire alone will not be sufficient to grant them

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  9. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    What evidence would you accept regarding adam and eve?
    You want me to provide evidence of believing the jesus myth? What kind of a request is that?
    Why should I not believe that jesus existed, or that God exists. What evidence is out there that obviously means neither exists (or existed in jesus' case)? And what evidence exists that refutes the supernatural or spiritual realm, or the possibility of such natures existing.

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  10. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, yes, yes. You are unable to provide evidence and that is my fault?

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    Then you break out the eternal damnation threat. Sorry, I'm not primitive enough to fall for that.
     
  11. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    Myles, is SRR aware that you are atheist, are you both just havin a laugh.

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  12. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    You are being offered a chance to repent. Act now!
     
  13. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    I am not an atheist, I am a theist. Be more careful with your typing !
     
  14. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    You believe the fable, provide any empirical or logical (oh wait the logic thing has already ruled against god) evidence. It should be testable, or at least we should be able to research it.
    Did you see the bibliography that I posted from medicine woman? it's a few pages back but in any event you do have your work cut out for you. Perhaps you will be the first theist to provide any evidence for your supernatural beliefs.
     
  15. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    I thought I saw him claiming to be an atheist on another thread. I may be playing to the crowd as it were.
     
  16. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    I actually asked you to provide evidence that any of the jesus myth is true.
    Are you really asking me to prove negatives? That would be another logical flaw you know.
     
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    Unless Myles got a severe bump to the head...!!!
     
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  18. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    snake river rufus,

    Please explain how it would be possible to provide such information to your satisfaction, and what the evidence would have to entail in order for you to accept my belief. And I'll see what I can do.
    As far as I can understand (scriptoraly), our basic senses are not equipt to directly observe God, at least not without a developed, sober intelligence.
    And i don't mean a high I.Q.

    Why would I need to provide evidence of his accounts? Wouldn't it be easier to just not believe that they are true and be done with it? Like you have.
    Why are you and others so obsessed with proving those accounts are myth?

    I am not asking you to prove a negative, I am asking for an explanation of what you believe.

    Jan.
     
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  19. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Matthew read 27:44-50

    9 hours

    Mark read 15:34-37

    9 hours

    Luke read 23:44-46

    9 hours

    John doesn't specify a time.

    So where is the anomaly that you talked about?
     
  20. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    Any evidence to justify your belief in the god myth, that's what I'm asking you to provide. Unless it's simply your belief is a product of years if indoctrination? Why do you accept an outlandish tale w/o evidence? Why should I accept your beliefs in said outlandish tale? Why should anyone accept scripture which tells us that anything supernatural is reality?
    Why should you provide evidence? Because you joined this thread,,,
     
  21. greenberg until the end of the world Registered Senior Member

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    Then research it. Study the scriptures you wonder about, and then act on the instructions they give. Millions of people do that on a daily basis, so it's not impossible to do.
    If you have questions about how to act on those instructions, consult those who appear to be more advanced in acting on those instructions than you currently are.
     
  22. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    I have studied your scriptures as much as I intend to, I'll waste no more time on fiction.
    Why would I want to act on others delusions? I wouldn't.
     
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    investigation - consultation = waste of time

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