Why does dog food need to be grain free?

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  1. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Why does dog food need to be grain free?

    Example:
    Product benefits

    • 60% meat
    • Energy content adjusted to the metabolism of large-sized dog breeds from 26 kg upwards
    • Cranberry, rosemary and rosehip to support the immune system
    • Prebiotics, probiotics, chicory and camomile to improve digestion and relieve irritation
    • Parsley for fresh breath
    • Sweet potato and peas to provide valuable fibre and vitamins
    • Glucosamine and chondroitin for healthy joints
    • Omega 3 & 6 fatty acids and minerals to promote a shiny coat and healthy skin
    • Yucca schidigera to reduce unpleasant stool odor
    • A grain-free formula
    • No soy, artificial colours or preservatives
    • The gentle cooking process preserves all important nutrients
    • The bag has a resealable zip to keep the food fresh longer
     
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  3. Curious layman Registered Member

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  5. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Can I give my dog eat chicken's bones?
     
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  7. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    No. Chicken bones are dangerous to dogs.
     
  8. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I'm pretty sure Tiassa, that as long as the chicken bones, or any other bones are uncooked [that is raw] it is alright.
    When my old friend Rocky the Rottweiler was alive, I would give him a raw chicken once a week.
    He died at 13.5 years old of cancer.
     
  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    A dog needs a variety of food, cooked and uncooked.
    One thing you should never feed a dog, no matter how soulful they look at you with their big eyes, is chocolate. The special "doggy type chocolate made for dogs is the exception...something about the caffeine?
     
  10. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    In Asian country, we feed dogs with chicken bones, they like it.
     
  11. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    That's good to know. Thank you.
     
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  12. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Why cat can eat fish with bones?
    Dog will die if given to eat fish with bones.
     
  13. Curious layman Registered Member

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    Dogs won't die if they eat fish bones. We've got a staffy/lurcher cross. It eats through bones like there wafers, no problems whatsoever.
    I think the problems are the bones getting stuck in their intestines etc... Fish bones are tiny and break easily, so shouldn't be much of a problem.
     
  14. Curious layman Registered Member

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    Why uncooked, what's the difference?
     
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  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I understand that cooked chicken bones tend to splinter and break easier, and could cause damage to the Dog's digestive tract. Plus of course before they were domesticated, all they ever had was raw meat and bone.
     
  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I wouldn't be giving any dog fish bones. There is always a danger of a bone sticking in its throat. You may have been lucky so far.
    https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/n...ish bones,expensive visit to the veterinarian.
     
  17. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    We Asians also feed our dogs with rice.
    I buy cheap fish, boil it, take away the bones and feed my dogs.
    Beef and lamb are expensive.
    Sometimes I buy cheap chicken from supermarket.
    Chicken intestines also cheap and dogs like it.
     
  18. Stoniphi obscurely fossiliferous Valued Senior Member

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    I use Life's Abundance kibble https://lifesabundance.com/Pets/Dog...tageDogFoodGrainFree_v11(Pet_Base)&Sku=401167 as a base diet for my Lab. It was formulated by a professional veterinarian and certified by PETA. While there is ample meat protein, there are a bunch of other ingredients that supply important canine nutrients. She also gets plenty of table scraps to supplement the kibble, some of those are whole grains, vegetables and fruit. While there is disagreement as to whether dogs are strictly carnivores or omnivores, my dogs have all had an omnivorous diet, current dog included. Chicken and fish bones are strictly forbidden, as is raw meat. I do not want to have to take her in for surgery to remove a bone that has perforated her intestine or throat. I treat her as I would myself or my child, with care and caution. My goal is not to feed her as cheap as possible but instead to maximize her health and personal happiness.

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  19. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    How to train dog not to piss and shit at home?
     
  20. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I suppose if I chose to put my Dogs in cotton wool, I can protect them from everything.
    I had a Rottweiler who I fed plenty of raw meat and uncooked bones to, and he lived to be 13.5 years old...pretty damn good for a large breed such as a Rotty.
    All my dogs were fed a variety of meat and food, both cooked and uncooked, but really, uncooked chicken bones are generally OK.
    I love chewing on an old bone myself...particularly a leg of lamb bone!
     
  21. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Obviously training should start once they are weened. After feeding them, put them straight outside and reward or tell them how good they are when they poop or pee. If an accident does occur inside, scowl at the dog and immediatley put him outside.
    100% this will work with any dog.
     
  22. Stoniphi obscurely fossiliferous Valued Senior Member

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    I got my lovely lady Labrador when she was a 12 week old puppy. She selected me at 10 weeks when the wife and I went to the breeders and met her parents. It was immediately very obvious that she liked the wife and I a lot. I really liked her parents as well - they were great dogs - and she was absolutely the cutest little puppy! When we came back to get her she ditched her litter mates and mom right away to play with my wife as I did the paperwork with the breeder. When we went to go she hopped in the car with us right away, not a look back.

    Her bed is on the floor next to ours, on my side. She has a comfy plush blanket on top of several cotton towels and 2 inches of foam rubber under a strip carpet. This is in the corner of the room so it is a space that is enclosed on 3 sides-2 walls and our bed - it is very 'denny'. The first night and for about a month after, I blocked her exit with a large block of foam rubber to keep her in her bed. Every 1 & 1/2 hours I got up with her and we went outside for a potty break. I set the alarm to make sure I kept on that schedule. If she peed or pooped I praised her, if not we just went back indoors and back to bed. Lather, rinse, repeat. Same thing during the day. Since I work at home this was not a big deal.

    This went on for 1 & 1/2 months, then I made it every 2 hours that we went out. After another month I moved it to 2 & 1/2 hours, then after another couple of weeks it became every 3 hours. The first night she whimpered a little so I put my hand right next to her so she could snuggle up to it and that fixed that. I put peanut butter in a Kong toy to get her to lie down for my afternoon nap next to the couch and pet her while she ate the peanut butter. Still do that despite that she is going on 4 years old now.

    She has had a couple of accidents over the last almost 4 years, but they were due to transient digestive issues - 1 bout of diarrhea and 2 of nausea. I cleaned those up without comment. I do not do punishment or yelling or negative things as that worked out incredibly well with my son. She is lying here under my desk next to my feet at the moment, stays close to me all of the time I am at home. When I must go out without her I tell her where I am going and when I will be back. She understands our language quite well now. She also understands that I would rather be with her than not. She has unrestricted run of the house and yard, gets a long walk/run/hike every morning and a dedicated hour of playtime with me every afternoon. She goes on all of our trips with us (mountain climbing in upstate NY or N Ontario twice a year) has her own seat belt etc. The hardest it has been so far is the last month as I have been back in radiation therapy every morning. When we get back from our AM walk I change into my radiation treatment clothes and tell her I am going to the vet but will be back for lunch. She goes to the big bay window and watches me go out to the car. She is at the door when I get back in 2 hours. This will end in a week and a half. She has been to the vet herself so she knows what that means, more or less.

    She has no behavioral issues, is incredibly well behaved, intelligent and affectionate. She loves to lay on the couch between the wife and I while we adore her. The daily outdoors adventure times with me and afternoon play sessions keep her very fit and lean despite the ongoing sharing of our meals and treats. Speaking of which, it is time for us to hit the trails...it as a toasty 8* F out there this AM with lots of ice and snow. Being a North country girl she loves it. I just dress warm.

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