Why does God not follow the Golden Rule? His best rule?

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  1. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    i believe i have, if you perceive any apathy from me, its an illusion

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  3. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Why should He have to? If you were an all-powerful being, what obligation would you face to treat something you created as you would wish to be treated, given you could wipe them out in a blink and remake them at will?
     
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  5. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Funny you should mention that, as God's miracles seem to get less and less spectacular as time goes on.
     
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  7. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Fair nuff - my point was simply in the context of "God" as the All Powerful type Ala the Bible.
     
  8. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    So you can do & say anything as long as you believe & everything is OK. You can do anything & justify it in your mind. But there's a problem if we say something you believe is wrong.

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  9. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    can you give me an example where that happened?
     
  10. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    This is in the context of a god not only omnipotent but also supposedly benevolent & loving & claiming the moral high ground.

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  11. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    The only issue with that is we are assuming that our "mortal comprehension" is able to ascertain the truth and "greater good" of His "divine plan."

    Overall, if one is to believe in God, and that there is a "divine plan", and that all things "happen for a reason"... isn't trying to fit such a plan into our admittedly limited worldview and perception a bit, i dunno... presumptuous of us?
     
  12. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Then we cannot call god good or its plan a greater good. We cannot know whether god is good or evil, sane or insane, loving or hateful, intelligent or stupid, benevolent or malevolent, mature or a brat. We cannot say robbery, rape, murder, etc is good or bad. Maybe I did evil yesterday by fixing someone's wheelchair & all last month by taking care of 4 kittens found in a dumpster.
    Any strong opinion or belief about god or morals would be presumptuous.

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  13. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed - it's a quandary for sure
     
  14. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Scriptures contradict each other. Another example: Yes, it says to be like god yet it says to obey god.
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  15. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    i dont think thats a contradiction. it makes perfect sense to me
     
  16. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    I do not believe you.

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  17. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    is it because people seem to habitually pretend to care about you and find out later they care about something else? do you feel like a fool for trusting them? you should feel good about yourself for being decent enough to trust people and pity for those that deceived you.
     
  18. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    How the fuck did you jump to that conclusion?
     
  19. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    why else would someone be disdainful towards people stating the truth without proof
     
  20. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Because they're claiming to have found "the one Truth to rule them all", yet they have no proof?

    Naturally people are sceptical of bs like that.
     
  21. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    if its just skepticism i dont mind
     
  22. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    And I don't mind what you believe, as long as you don't preach and proselytize.
     
  23. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Generally, we do. We humans are quite good and altruistic and most use reciprocity daily.

    When we forget to add to each others security and order, that is when it hits the fan.

    The world needs what it has always needed for full peace. A God/Man.

    We refuse to elect such a God/Man.



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    DL
     

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