my god-- this comment from you is completely pathetic. my advise--increase your intelligence. it was not even about being coy--it was simply about him quote mining me to say i was speaking of the actual knowledgeable ones while this guy attempted a manipulation attempt to imply i was speaking with him and not against him. it appears that you simply cannot grasp my statement of: "everyone whom is whining, clearly does not have a clue of both sides of this issue and are simply masking the reality of these so-called learners. we all know the actual reality--which is simply, an abundance of ignoramuses with no education, with no experience and for-sure with no background, except of a belief of their own extraordinary intellect, which in reality is nothing more than pathetic, low-level minded, nonsense. then with all this above--comes in to these places and then insults scientist and science in general--attempting to re-establish, established science, simply because they believe they are some sort of science genius or simply they are pretending wannabes. this is the actual reality of these places.. i have said this here before-- these places are simply cesspools for the mentality disabled and the want-to-bes to play at, nothing more. then there are the ones whom believe they are intellects and simply just come here to receive their arguing fix, as they use any topic here to do so. just about five years ago, these places were different, nowadays, the pathetic-s run these sites. understanding what and whom are being insulted would help. " in essence, i used to do what others do now, like rpenner and such. i used to be on multiple science sites. i do have posting histories on them all. but over years i became disgusted by the exact shiit from my statement. it is easier to insult with the reality than to sit here and correct narcissistic ignoramus. i cannot stand writing or typing. so hence it is easier just to skip these charades and simply show the reality.