Why is the USA pussy whipped by Israel?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Medicine*Woman, Jun 5, 2008.

  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Sure and you ally with Israel to fight the Muslims. :shrug:
     
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  3. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: I've always wanted to know why the USA molly-coddles Israel. Maybe this should be more appropriate in the Politics Forum. Why do Americans (less the Jewish component), kiss ass to Israel? Do we really know the evils of Israel? I think not. It's as if Israel wants the USA to die in its arms. Please enlighten me.

    ~ M*W
     
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  5. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Why are we equally friendly towards the Germans, Spanish, or French? Why shouldn't we be friendly towards them?
     
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  7. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Sam:

    Yes. Also because our government is screwed by Jewish lobbyists and crazy Christian Fundamentalists (not all Fundamentalists but many) that have been essentially seduced by these Jewish lobbyists into giving theological support to Israel (which makes no sense as Christians wait to see the day for Jews to convert or die).
     
  8. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: No, I totally agree. That's the PC thing to do. I wasn't speaking about our friendliness or lack of toward Israel or Israelis. It just seems that we are tied... no, make that bound and gagged..., to Israel. I think my question was answered with the Jewish lobby.
     
  9. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    Perhaps also it's because many Christians want Israel to hold it's place, at least until Armageddon.

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    I'm not Christian BTW.
     
  10. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Or you could say youre anti-Zionist.

    Muslims get along great with 'Jews against Zionism'.
     
  11. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Medicine*Woman:

    CHeck out my Lucifer thread. It is the type that you'd like, I think. Also, I dedicated to you.
     
  12. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: I did, and thank you! I intend to reply with at least one reference soon. You made an interesting post.
     
  13. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks, darling. I'm glad you find it to your liking and I look forward to the reply.
     
  14. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    Why is Israel a pussy whipping female?
    Does this mean that the US should be a swinging dick male?

    This metaphorical choice is on the sick side.
     
  15. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Man, some of you guys are such paranoid pricks. Noone's forcing you to support Israel, go set up your own lobbies and vote for your own agendas, retards. Go coddle up to the fanatics, I'm sure they could always use a few more useful idiots. Israel will do what it needs to survive, like any sane country would. If you want to help with a peaceful solution, send international peacekeepers in to police the borders and put an end to all aggression from all sides. Otherwise, whether you send money or not, Israel will do whatever it feels it needs to in order to protect its citizens. And for your info, the US withheld billions of dollars of aid from Israel because they were building their separation wall, so clearly the US isn't some kind of little bitch that heels when Israel barks. Despite that, notice how there's basically 0 terror coming from the other side of that wall now, whereas before, Palestinians were setting themselves off in supermarkets on a near daily basis? And notice, now there's very little fighting in the West Bank, period? Furthermore, your hero George W. actually wanted Israel to attack Lebanon during the recent Hezbollah coup, and Israel refused, not being interested in another mess like the last one. So who's causing problems for who?

    How about some criticism of the choices anti-Israel forces use for their battlefields? Hezbollah launches rockets out of houses (many times caught on video, available on Youtube), Israel bombs the houses, and then the whole world gives them shit for it. Same with Hamas. Is that a way to fight for your cause? Launch some rockets from a neighbourhood so you can watch the neighbourhood get flattened and then call the BBC in? You guys might appreciate the tactics these goons utilize so effectively, but I doubt you'd want to live under their thumbs. Not to say Israel is any innocent sweetheart here, but many of you have decided to make it your sacrificial lamb to undo all the west's colonial injustices, like the founding of America. Go find some other bunch of white people to sacrifice, Israel's not interested.
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Hilarious. Defending civilians by occupying land and filling the land with illegal settlements where more civilians are moved in.
     
  17. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Let's stop with this nonsense "illegal".

    There is no superstate that has the legitimacy to declare law over nations, therefore it cannot be illegal.
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yup, which is why the UN establishment of Israel itself is a joke. Who accepts that the UN has the right to give away land to immigrants? Especially those who have ties from 2000 years ago?

    The legality of the settlements is tied to the legality of Israel. If you believe the UN has the right to declare Israel legal, you have to accept that any occupation by Israel is also illegal, as defined by the same UN.
     
  19. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    SAM:

    The British Empire officially gave Israel recognition, after Jewish terrorists targetted their brethren and Englishmen in brutal campaigns of terror and brutality. Not unlike the Palestinians. The Jews have a history of terrorism going back to the Roman Empire, ironically.

    Again: The British Empire owned Palestine. They gave the Jews their land. Stupidly.
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The British washed their hands off it and handed it to the UN. Again, they had no right to override the self determination of the people anymore than Hitler had a right to put Jews into trains and send them to the gas ovens simply because he "owned" Germany.


    No the British had a mandate in Palestine. Like the Americans have in Iraq. It does not give them the right to repopulate it with immigrants any more than being a signatory to the UN gives the UN rights to repopulate your country with any Iraqi or Rwandan immigrants.
     
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  21. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Sam:

    Well actually, Hitler did. He was the lawful ruler of Germany. It was ethically barbarous, but legally justified. Just as it was legally justified for the Empire to give up Israel to the Jews based on their lack of will to resist Jewish terror.

    Britain was an empire, not an NGO. As such, it had absolute control over Palestine.
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Then the Nuremberg trials were illegal

    Nope it did not; Palestine was never a British colony, only a mandate. In any case, the Palestinians are under no obligation to recognise the British or the UN or the establishment of a state for European immigrants on their land. Just like the Indians were under no obligation to recognise any British "rights" over their land or the French people to recognise German "rights" on their land.
     
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  23. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Well I'd get into a whole debate about how Israel's recognition by the UN is far more legitimate than you let on, but I don't see the point. At best, ignoring a lot of other 20th century historical facts, the Palestinians could demand all the territory they controlled in 1947, because the jews hadn't gained anything by conquest up to that point. But that would still leave a small state for the jews, so Israel, in some form or other, should be legitimate in anyone's book except for Hitler's.

    If you don't want Israel to build settlements, why don't you show them all the measures you're willing to take to guarantee their safety if they abandon these settlements? Send them international guarantees that if the Palestinians get open borders on Gaza and a West Bank cleared of all jewish settlement, they will send forces to protect Israel from any Palestinian aggression. Or send them an international guarantee that if Israel pulls back to recognized borders and is attacked again by a hostile neighbour who refuses to take action to end the attacks, that Israel will be permitted to counterattack and legally annex a buffer zone territory in response.

    If you're not willing to be part of the solution, then sit back and watch Israel keep doing what it's doing. In 50 years you'll still be yelling and screaming and soiling your adult diapers crying over the injustice that your Uncle Joe Stalin couldn't wipe them out when he had the chance.
     

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