Why we exist

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Starlord, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. Starlord Registered Member

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    Why we exist.

    "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." - Isaac Newton

    The biggest question we have ever asked is why we are here and how everything that is, is... Everything that exists is in balance, therefor we exist because nothing exists. When one wonders how everything can be, it is because it isn't. Nothing exists... If nothing ever existed than in balance something must exist, and because 'nothing' is the opposite of 'anything', everything must exist. Our existence and every possible variation of existence, is an actuality of the balance created by nothing existing.

    "We are here, because we aren't"
    -Thomas Williams
     
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  3. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Why is Wednesday purple?
     
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  5. Starlord Registered Member

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    Because it isn't.
     
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  7. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    It's a nonsensical question. There is no "why". You supply your own personal meaning but other than that there just "is".
     
  8. Starlord Registered Member

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    Conceive the answer, not the question. This is a legitimate explication to any and every question we can ask. Open your mind, this is my revelation. The answer to everything.
     
  9. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    It's an answer to many "why" questions. It's not an answer to most questions however. Why does a baby cry probably has an answer. Why do we exist probably doesn't. Why does a blade of grass exist? You can respond with "why" to any answer one could give. Kids do this all the time.
     
  10. Starlord Registered Member

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    Baby's cry because we are in a place in space and time where baby's cry for what ever reason the do, as a place exists somewhere that they do not, as a place exists where baby's don't exist at all, where we don't exist, or grass or anything. Your arguing something without trying to comprehend it.

    Secondly, "you can respond with 'why' to any answer to any answer one could give'
    - 'Why' was part of the question not the answer! If you take the time to comprehend what I'm saying, it's the terminal answer to any question, even 'why'
     
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  11. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    Philosophy is is like push-ups for the brain. Philosophy exercises the brain but accomplishes nothing and answers nothing.
     
  12. Starlord Registered Member

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    Philosophy- the rational investigation of the truths and principles of being, knowledge, or conduct.

    That's possibly the most redundant thing I've ever heard... Without questioning and investigating what we think and know we'd never learn anything new and would still be living in caves. Questions give rise to answers, answers are knowledge and knowledge is mankinds fundamental survival mechanism. We survive by being smarter than other animals, were smarter because we think, we think using philosophies.
     
  13. Chuglife Registered Member

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    Think of the answer more like a theory. It's only a theory until proven otherwise. Proven or disproven is knowledge gained
     
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  14. Starlord Registered Member

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    Thank you! Wether or not you accept the concept, it's a viable concept that can't be conclusively proven or disproven which generates speculations, theories and "SPECULATIONS" which broadens ones direction of thought and expands cognition.
     
  15. The God Valued Senior Member

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    What is 'nothing' ?
     
  16. Starlord Registered Member

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    Something most will never comprehend... Nothing is a noun, and an adjective. Nothing is just that, nothing... Or if you grasp what I'm trying to say it's also the womb that gives birth to everything.
     
  17. The God Valued Senior Member

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    But womb is not "nothing".
     
  18. Chuglife Registered Member

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    Prove it
     
  19. The God Valued Senior Member

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    Starlord (chuglife)

    One of the Mods going to prove something soon.
     
  20. Starlord Registered Member

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    That's the point, it isn't.. It's the opposite of nothing, and is thusly permitted to exist due to nothing. No one replying tho this has the slightest capability of grasping the magnitude of this revelation... This epiphany is literally going to change the world and our u derstanding of it and you don't understand or don't have a weighable debate then don't waist my time with your arbitrary controverting.
     
  21. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    Newton was writing about the action of physical forces within the universe.

    I agree that the ultimate metaphysical question is why does existence exist in the first place - why is there something rather than nothing. But 'why are we here' seems to me to be a very different question, one that I find far less interesting. The latter question seems to be seeking a purpose, a plot, a narrative, that our individual lives fit into and that give our lives meaning. My own view is that there isn't any grand purpose for our lives, that we are just the products of our histories - evolutionary, social, whatever.

    That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

    You seem to be arguing that 'nothing' is some kind of negative being and that positive and negative balance and sum to zero. That kind of idea isn't new, Lawrence Krauss effectively argued the same way in his rather foolish A Universe from Nothing - Why There is Something Rather than Nothing'. It's a popular idea among the dimmer sort of physicists. But summing everything in existence in Krauss' version, or existence and 'nothing' in your version, to zero, still doesn't tell us why zero flowered and differentiated into observed reality. It just preserves a conservation principle. Nor does it account for the existence of all the abstract principles of logic, mathematics and physics that people like Krauss appeal to in hopes of 'justifying' their speculations.

    In my opinion, any attempt to explain reality itself in terms of anything real, would appear to be circular. So while I think that the existence of being itself is the greatest of all questions, it's a question that I don't think that human beings will ever answer.
     
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  22. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    why - the cause or intention underlying an action or situation; for what reason(?). Implying an event or circumstance which another one is a consequence of.

    "Why" references a prior, effective "something" which thereby already instantiated a member of the category of "existence". Why even indicates potential psychological character or degree of intelligence if "purpose, intention" is conflated with "cause".

    If "nothing" exists, then it's obviously not serving as a synonym for "non-existence". Accordingly it needs to be clarified what state of being is signified by "nothing". If "nothing" exists in order to serve as the "why" for everything existing which is not classified as "nothing", then this is additional incentive to clarify how the be-ing of "nothing" is distinct from the be-ing of everything else.
     
  23. river Valued Senior Member

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    Hmmmm....

    So it's not about nothing actually , it's about the concept of nothing , (which can not exist ) ,that gives the balance to existence .

    Or the ability to discuss something vs nothing ? Or even something in the first place .

    Perhaps but in the end ; nothing only exists as a practical concept. Nothing in the fridge or account .

    river
     
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