Discussion in 'World Events' started by clayton, Mar 31, 2010.
Or radiation bombs ( dirty bombs ).
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the skills needed to make a lethal and highly contagious plague are quite different from those needed to make an atomic bomb.
NK is a focused but backward country and not likely to have the required skills. During the cold war the US and Russia, at least, both made several biological weapons. They can be obtained and smuggled out of Russia with much greater ease than the nuclear material needed for a "dirty bomb" - even just mailed out in a small letter to a biological lab that can take these living organisms and grow them into many pounds.
I believe one was a form of Anthrax that was developed to be both lethal and highly contagious with some anti-dotes for it. Then there are natural plagues - one fortunately well isolated is Ebola. The lager than NK and prosperous Moslem nation of Indonesia does, I think, have the skills to weaponize Ebola dust.
If Israel continues with its current “High Kill Ratio” policy, instead of a “live and let live” near perfect defense policy, it is only a question of time before one or more of these dust spore agent is placed in black balloons that drift into Israel at night or are simply tossed out of high rise building windows in major cities like Tel Viva. There are certainly many with little to live for who would love to have the chance to kill a few thousand Israelis even if they too must die of Ebola etc.
That IMHO is the most likely used of biological weapons - by persons filled with so much hate they will gladly die to get revenge.
I'd say comparing today with the Soviet Union would be like comparing 1990 with English tossing infected bodies into French-Ottawa encampments in the 1700s.
The pace of advancement in DNA and genetic manipulation is blistering fast. AT least IMO. We've already genetically engineered killer viruses (over a decade ago) and it worked pretty well at killing. Heck they just made a new genetically modified Mosquito and announced it last week. Soon almost anything will be possible.
Anyway, that's much more of a worry than nukes IMO. Which makes one wonder why all the focus on Iran's nuclear program?
yes and it's coming soon
it will involve Iran, Russia, China, Israel and/or the USA
Sweet No mention Of Canada There...
Will There Be A WWIII. Thoughts?
Yes. It will be between China and USA in 2035
So-called "dirty bombs", or salted bombs, were never weaponized and never made it into anyone's arsenal. The only test of a salted weapon was the British Antler series of 1957 in Australia, which was more or less a conceptual failure.
Besides, modern Teller-Ulam fission/fusion/fission weapons use tampers made of U-238 and are dirty enough to begin with.
Dirty bombs are good for fear, and can cause some long term effects..
I mean you can make a dirty bomb from matches and a smoke detector...
crude and cause little damage,( except maybe health problems)
But Most of the damage would be from the panic they provoke.
WW III will occur because of the corruption of the Balfour. The creation of Jordan gave legitimacy to the prime doctrines of Islam's expansionism - and terrorism became an honorable phenomenon. Now Israel is accused of occupying 12% of the land allocated her in the Balfour - and a three state is presented as a 2-state: what does this mean in the global scenario? If the middle-east is seen as Islamic - then the rest of the world will face the same issues. The fact is, a host of nations and ethnic groups predate both Islam and the Arabs, including the Jews, Kurds, Coptics and others: where are their rights?
If Islam can wipe off a 4000 year nation, and all Muslims and Christians keep silent of it - then it will see Christianity, Hinuism, Buddhism and Atheism as the follow-up. One cannot have it both ways. Humanity can be seen as being tested here.
This is true, but for clarification I was referring to the "original" dirty bomb, as I presumed Shogun was. Maybe not...
Bombs that use a conventional explosive to disseminate a radioactive contaminant are even less useful and threatening than special purpose salted bombs ever were. They're weapons of perception, not impact. Which makes them good for terrorists looking to scare people, and not so good for military use.
I meant radiation dirty bombs, made from cesium-137 and produces gammar and alpha radiation ( I think ). It have a large area of effect, highly concealable an deadly. It is mainly used to target civilian centers. Also don't forget biological weapons and chemical weapons.
Umm, no not really. Cesium 137 contained in smoke detectors are too few, but cesium 137 is still available for civilian use. Cesium 137 can both cause alpha and gamma radiation ( I think, not sure about alpha, but certain about gamma ). It got long term health effects, fatal heath effects, and it have a large area of effect and can be carried by wind. The main thing it is for is basically diverting government resources and attention. Also installs fear and panic.
Umm.... no, the definition for a dirty bomb today is a radiation bomb. I even put radiation bomb in front of it and dirty bomb in brackets afterward.
Dirty bombs are highly concealable, and sometimes even after it have exploded, nobody will know. Plus, there is very hard to cure ( I believe the only cure is called blue something, I forgot ).
WWIII hahaha. isn't it obvious that we're headed towards world peace? any minute now we're all going to lay down our religions and our money and our weapons and say, "hey, let's just all get along." looking forward to it. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
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Then aliens will invade. Didnt you watch that episode of the Simpsons?
we'll all stop bitching about each other when the aliens get ahold of us.
well maybe. yeah, probably not.
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Yes. Some say it will be Russia, China and the Muslim ME countries vs. Israel and Israel will win. Some say it is happening right now: Islam vs. the USA. The USA wins that one. I'm not worried about the first one. I will be gone. Jesus Christ will rapture His church before that one begins.
I am courious about this "rapture" - is it described in any detail in the Bible? For example, if you are "gone" (from the Earth, I assume) will the weight / mass of the Earth decrease by your weight? Or is what is "raptured" nothing (with mass)?
What is "raptured"? Is it something that only humans have? Did Neanderthals have it too? (The latest research indicated that they interbread with humans (only in Europe) as all decendent of Europeans have some genes that they had, but no Orientals or Africans have these genes - I.e. Africans & Orientals are the "pure humans" (and on average Orientals have higher IQs, than the hybrid European creatures etc.) Perhaps only orientals will be raptured? Perhaps "good dogs" will be raptured too? I am very confused by this "rapture concept." Can you clarify it?
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