Will you buy electric car?

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  1. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Look like the Trend is electric car,
    will Formula One someday use electric car too ?
     
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    affordability of current electric cars means only around the top 5% to 10% of income earners in any 1st world country can afford to buy one.
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    There is a race called the Formula-E that uses electric cars.
    Eight years ago it was only the top 1% who could afford them. Today the Model 3 is the #4 selling car in the US.

    In 10 years? Used EV's will be popular for poor people who need to drive 10 miles to work. They'll buy used Nissan Leafs for $1000 with trashed battery packs that only have 20 miles of range left.
     
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  7. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Millions of motorcycles - petrol

    China
    Millions of motorcycles - battery

    Western countries - politics involved in petrol

    In Australia while the TALK is about electric cars most of it relies on massive improvement in technology leading to massive improvement in battery technology which is needed to give massive improvement in range

    Should I also throw in the massive investment required for the electric car infrastructure recharge service stations

    Thought bubble - will recharge times come down to times compatible with filling up a petrol tank?
    Also not possible to take a empty battery to a recharge point like you can take a empty petrol can to a petrol station to fill

    Hybrids might be game changers but do not think will see a Rolls Royce version. Car business gone, just keep the jet engine for commercial planes division

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  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The woman of the house is holding out for that - she is nursing an old Corolla until the electrics hit the used market.
    I suspect the demand will boom before the supply, and the prices likewise. If there were a hand tool swap-in swap-out battery design for light pickups - so that the second battery could sit on the charger - - -
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    consumer indoctrination has been very well performed.

    how many car drivers keep a spare tank of petrol at home for their car ?
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Good EV's now get 300 miles per charge. I don't think you need "massive improvements in range" beyond that. Mainly now it's a matter of getting costs down.
    We have the infrastructure to support charging about 120 EV's at our company. The "massive investment required?" 120 outlets. About $20 a piece at Home Depot.
    They will get to about 2C and stick there. Which means half hour recharge times. But that also means that with a 300 mile range, you can add 10 miles a minute - which means a few minutes for most trips in the US.
     
  11. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    My old car could easily do 1,000 klm on a full tank plus I could carry a further 1,000 klm to avoid expensive fuel at service stations in the middle of nowhere

    And service stations in the middle of nowhere, even if running on wind plus solar, will require to have enough outlets to cater for the bank up due to the extended refuel (charging) times

    Add a captive mob restaurant?

    And don't even mention large diesel trucks
    Soon to be self driving as I understand

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  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Yep. But most _people_ can't do 1000km.
    Probably a restaurant that puts in its own chargers. You don't need people to maintain them, or storage tanks, or tanker trucks. Just wires.
     
  13. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    I can't imagine when there is no petrol cars.
    What will happen to petroleum exporter countries?
     
  14. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Large trucks, aircraft and spacecraft

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  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    soo all truckies need to go on strike until they get paid 3 times as much immediately ?

    they dont 'not' have money already.
    the idea of those super rich countries suddenly not having petrolium income is something they are already planning for.
    it is the other countries whos entire ecconomic systems have been built around the supply and retail of those products which need to be adapting to the changing market.
     
  16. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    They'll run out anyway. The underground deposits are already depleted and the underwater ones are horribly accident-prone. There have been thousands of spills that went unreported, because the oil slick didn't affect and American coast.
    What those countries will do is continue their immense disparity of income. The sheiks have investments in South American mines, US peanuts, Australian cinema, Canadian real estate, French wine, English television, Korean robotics and Indian solar technology. They will do just fine. Their subjects will keep on suffering from internecine warfare and water shortages.

    If the pertroleum runs out, cars and other vehicles will keep running on different energy sources.
    (Me, I'm holding out for a self-sufficient electric car with solar skin. https://www.xof1.com/pressReleases.php)
    But what will you do for plastic water bottles and other toxic land-/ocean-fill?
     
  17. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    ?? Nothing.

    We will always need oil for plastics, specialty fuels (aviation etc) feedstocks for industrial processes, asphalt, lubrication etc. As prices rise demand (at the new price) will drop, so they'll make about the same amount of money on a smaller stream of oil.
     
  18. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    The Chevy Bolt looks pretty good.
     
  19. river

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    Maybe

    But there is nothing like revving an engine , especially my 5.0 litre .
     
  20. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Yep. And some people miss the clouds of dense smoke when they start their car, or having to use a manual choke.

    Still, the feeling of doing 0-60 in 2.2 seconds helps you get over missing those things.
     
  21. river

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    Dense smoke is an indication that your engine is in poor shape
     
  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    50 years ago, it merely indicated that your car had just started. Things change.
     
  23. river

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    Indeed they do , thank goodness .

    But I like my Mustang
     

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