Wisdom

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by wesmorris, Dec 28, 2002.

  1. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    It is that which we seek? Is it that which is why we're here at sciforums? Regardless, let's see what you got. In your infinite reflections, what has been revealed to you?

    I'll offer two, feel free to criticize or add your own. Please, feedback is appreciated:

    True wisdom comes at the price of knowing you'll never really know anything.

    The only route to truth is faith. Faith in what is up to you. I choose reason. Reason is my savior.

    Oh, and a bonus:

    Jesus can't love you because he's dead. I didn't kill him but I thought you should know.
     
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  3. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    Rat's head, Ox's neck, in all things.
     
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  5. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    Do you expect sincerity in man when hypocrisy is the very keynote of human nature?

    No, I yearn for it. I believe it can reside in intention.

    We are nurtured on it; we are schooled in it, we live by it.

    Again, to an extent, but it the intention is pure, the journey is worthy.

    ; and we rarely realize it.

    mostly. few realize I think the fact that they are hypocrites by nature. you are, I am, we is. nature of consciousness I believe.

    You have seen it rampant and out of hand in France during the past four years - cant and hypocrisy on the lips of the revolutionaries, cant and hypocrisy on the lips of the upholders of the old regime;

    Have not.

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    ( I am ingorant of that)

    a riot of hypocrisy out of which in the end is begotten chaos.

    that's quite a statement.

    And I who criticize it all on this beautiful God-given morning am the rankest and most contemptible hypocrite of all.

    We are all hypocrites. It can be minimized with earnest intent. Jesus is dead, forgive yourself.

    It was this - the realization of this truth kept me awake all night.

    Did that to me too for a long time actually. Until I accepted that oh, it's inevitable. I am no innocent. I do have will however, and I can try to not be a hypocrite. I think kind of half the thing is that you know you are one, the other - earnest intent.

    Hehe, it could probably be said however, that earnest intent coupled with limited cognitive ability might be worse than a dire intent eh? Hehe, at least in that case the dire intent is aligned with outcome.
     
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  7. notme2000 The Art Of Fact Registered Senior Member

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    Some just can't stop asking questions (like me). I have yet to decide if this classifies as a blessing or curse (another question!)
     
  8. susan Registered Senior Member

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    maybe

    we all should start "Questioners Anyonymous."
    my name is susan and I ask questions.
    I feel lonely.
     
  9. Joeman Eviiiiiiiil Clown Registered Senior Member

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    Wisdom is extremely important for clerics. It mainly determines how many spells they can memorize.
     
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    *Adam shoots Joeman...*

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  11. moonman Registered Senior Member

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    Is Wisdom the same as knowledge?
     
  12. notme2000 The Art Of Fact Registered Senior Member

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    No, far from it. Knowledge can be taught. Wisdom can not.
     
  13. moonman Registered Senior Member

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    Ah yes, the wise man knows to question. While the fool only knows the question.
     
  14. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    "Knowledge can be communicated, but not wisdom. One can find
    it, live it, be fortified by it, do wonders through it, but one cannot
    communicate and teach it." - Hermann Hesse, Siddhartha
     
  15. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    You guys are a tough crowd. I suppose you're saying I should have asked "What kind of knowledge can you communicate here that you've gained from your wisdom?". Sheez. You should know what I mean.

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  16. susan Registered Senior Member

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    well

    I'd say that we are acquiring wisdom about online/hyperspace
    communication. it is something we are experiencing together,
    with strange time delayed and no physical contact.
     
  17. notme2000 The Art Of Fact Registered Senior Member

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    We must assume the person on the other end of the line is wise. If they aren't there's not much we can do about that. Ie: Muscleman.
     
  18. moonman Registered Senior Member

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    I guess if you are wise, you might know it. But you wouldn't declare it.

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    You would know better.
     
  19. susan Registered Senior Member

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    so

    so is 'wisdom'
    really the search for someone wiser than yourself?
    or is it acceptance of yourself as wise?
    or is it providing 'wisdom' to someone else?

    is it the same as 'enlightenment,' or only a pre-requisite?
     
  20. susan Registered Senior Member

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    I think

    moderation and humility, more than modesty
     
  21. susan Registered Senior Member

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    hm

    intended nobility or accidental nobility?
     
  22. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    wesmorris,

    Wisdom comes from Love.

    Not quite. It is true that we know nothing, but it is also true that many of us we know someday. I believe that our minds are extremely limited, but our spirits are unlimited.

    Not quite. The only route to Truth is God's Faith, which is Love. Remeber that there are many illusions, but there is only one Truth.

    He is not dead. He is alive. He is just not physically alive.
     
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    moonman
    Is Wisdom the same as knowledge?

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    notme2000
    No, far from it. Knowledge can be taught. Wisdom can not.

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    moonman
    Ah yes, the wise man knows to question. While the fool only knows the question.

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    EvilPoet
    "Knowledge can be communicated, but not wisdom. One can find
    it, live it, be fortified by it, do wonders through it, but one cannot
    communicate and teach it." - Hermann Hesse, Siddhartha


    I agree. And I add that knowledge comes from experience while wisdom comes from Love...

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