Within Absurdity-Truth

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Mr. Hamtastic, Nov 14, 2008.

  1. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    The statement posed by the title requires a few mental hurdles to be overcome.

    1. All reality is perceived
    2. All perception is relative, and thus, suspect
    3. All knowledge gained without the knowledge that reality is suspect is, itself, suspect.
    4. Things that are suspect should be compared
    5. The most accurate comparisons are found by comparing something to all other things
    6. All other things includes things considered absurd
    7. Reality is the lie we tell ourelves is truth...

    Therefore Absurdity is truth.

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  3. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    Everyone agrees? Wow. I'm flattered.

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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    at which point in your logic did reality become absurdity exactly?
     
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  7. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Even worse ....which reality?

    You see a man holding a gun on someone. Is he robbing an innocent man, or is he a cop holding vicious criminal? How do you know?

    You call 911 and the cops come with sirens and lights flashing. It distracts the man with the gun, so the other man grabs the gun and shoots him.

    You point out the man you thought was a robber with a gun, so the cops arrest one man but can't catch the other one who now holds the gun. Ooh, then the cops discover that the man they arrested is also a cop who was holding the murderer and trying to arrest him. The bad guy got away.

    Ooops, wait ...are you sure that's what happened? Or is that what the cops are telling you now that it's over? Do you believe the cops?

    Which reality?

    Baron Max
     
  8. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    Think of it like a train-draq. 1. is the engine. 7. is the caboose.

    Not precisely, but it will work. The engine actually starts far before that. Should I start a new thread about reality's existence being inconsequential to those not observing it? or shoud I go earlier, to the assertion that all knowledge, based on other knowledge, should be considered as suspect as any other thought, because of the relativity of the knower to themselves? I can go earlier, if you like. I just tried to pick a convenient point to start from, to travel to my actual thought.

    :shrug:
     
  9. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    Baron Max-Absurd! and exactly my point.

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  10. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    There is only one reality :bugeye:
     
  11. draqon Banned Banned

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    One reality with many skewed perceptions...right? because a dream and life are not the same or are they? And are not skewed perceptions different realities?
     
  12. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Right.
     
  13. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    Ok. Prove reality wihout perception, for me.
     
  14. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I can prove that reality exists independent of perception for you.
     
  15. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    While you're busy, could you also prove that that reality is the same as all versions of reality that are perceived?
     
  16. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    No, because it isn't.
     
  17. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    Then do it, don't threaten.

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  18. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I can't do it over the internet.. duh

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    It involves an experiment.
    Anyway, I'm off now. Talk to you later

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  19. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    Max was saying-whose perception of reality, Enmos, anyway, although having reality proven independent of perception would be very interesting.
     
  20. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    Enmos wants to rape me for experimental purposes.

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  21. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Science acknowledges that all knowledge is suspect and describes apparent relationships, not absolute truths. There are degrees of absurdity, and some things are less absurd than others.
     
  22. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    All things, if absurd, are greeted with skepticism, correct? How then can anything be "commonly held" to be true, within scientific study, anyway?
     
  23. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    I guess that just means that all those scientists are ....absurd?

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