She was having sex, just like he was. The point you seem to keep ignoring is that she bears the weight of the result of said pregnancy. So it is her body that will be permanently affected by it. It is her life that will be forever changed because of it. It is her body that is at risk. And thus, it should be her choice to decide if she wishes to continue with the pregnancy or terminate. Unless of course you are now advocating a position whereby sex should only occur with the specific intent of procreation? Why not? Why shouldn't she be allowed to say that 'I am pregnant, and I wish to terminate the pregnancy' because of any variety of circumstances that may be present that would warrant her desire to terminate said pregnancy? Do you want to ban anti-biotics too? That life growing inside her can be aborted naturally at any time. Tell me, do you think women should face criminal investigations if they miscarry? You know, since there was a life growing inside her and all and you seem to think that that life's interest should outweigh the rights and life of the mother in regards to her rights to her own body. Since you seem to be arguing from the standpoint that a woman's body is not her own at the moment of conception, do you think women should be required to undergo monthly pregnancy tests, because there could be a life growing inside her? I need to ask, at what point do you think women should have full rights over their body? Do you think such a right exists at all for women once they become fertile and start menstruating? What do you think should happen in cases of rape, sexual coercion, rape? Does "the life growing inside her" become less important in those cases? Or is your issue with a woman having a say and rights over her own body only when she has consensual sex, what with all of your "what was she thinking???" attitude? Because it seems to me, your issue here is that women consent to sex, and thus, risk pregnancy and then in her wantonly ways, changes her mind and elects to abort. How did you describe it? Ah yes, her "get out of jail free card"? You may not realise it, but you seem to be slut shaming women who have sex and then decide to have an abortion if they get pregnant from said sex. That if she didn't want to get pregnant, she shouldn't have had sex kind of thing you have going on there. Well obviously. When she decides whether to abort or continue with the pregnancy, she is owning the responsibility for having sex. You do understand this, yes? Actually, she agreed to care for them when she acted to continue with the pregnancy. They become a responsibility when you reach the point that it is no longer safe or viable to abort or when they are born. You mean she has responsibilities after they have exited her womb and are no longer inside her body? And just by the by.. Have you never seen orphanages and foster children whose parents do give them up from any age? When they come out and are no longer taking up residence in the mother's body. I don't know a single woman who says 'nah, if I get pregnant, I can always get an abortion'. Not a one. Your issue seems to be with women who have sex for pleasure and not for procreation purposes and then if they find they are pregnant, decide to abort. As I said before, it's a manner of slut shaming women, because she "decided to have sex" and *gasp*, got pregnant and had an abortion. You have turned her into someone irresponsible for having sex for reasons other than procreation. Are you Catholic? She would think about this when her period is late or she feels somewhat unwell and goes to the doctors and her doctor tells her she's pregnant. Tell me, do you think "babies" each time you have sex? Not every woman "decides" to get pregnant. Does not mean that just because they didn't decide to get pregnant, and they get pregnant, that they should forfeit all of their rights to their bodies. See how that works?