World trade centre collapse, 9/11 conspiracy

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  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Math getting you down? Happens often to people who don't understand it.

    Suggestion - learn some math! Then you will be a bit more credible overall.
     
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  3. Q-reeus Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Ha ha ha ha. Once upon a time I thought you might at least have been an Honest John. Your latest behavior here has well and truly left that impression shattered beyond repair.
    Here is an example of yours and e.g. James R's revealing total absence of effort, in even attempting to apply elementary relativistic math to solve the 'conundrum' I presented here:

    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/linear-momentum-conservation-puzzle.158261/

    Do not provoke a further bowel movement by your impudent lies/total distortions.
    Yours and James R's math/conceptual incompetence has been amply demonstrated above.Too intimidated to even try.
    Appeals to 'I couldn't be bothered responding' is too hollow to merit any serious response. Both of you simply had no clue.
    Please - honestly admit that much at least!

    Billvon is just another disgusting, lying SF shill. Like for bells, James R, DaveC426913, and 'likes' de facto supporters of mass murder (9-11, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran (still not achieved)), oppressive totalitarian domestic rule (e.g. 'Homeland Security' - abrogation of habeas corpus - de facto indefinitely extended martial law). Including extinguishing of true freedom of expression/thought (like here at SF). Set to eventually lead to the revolting actual Orwellian 1984 triumph. Of lying, stealing, murdering (almost exclusively by callously expending 'others' in a never ending 'war on of terror'), police state ultra tribal supremacist evil, over good.

    The expected backlash will - not might - prove to be vacuous polemic. Motivated likely by straight out cowardly subservience to the oligarch dictated Prevailing Norm.
    Whether this post is the last straw for PC conformist forum hierarchy, thus my swan song here, I care not. Really.
     
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  5. Bells Staff Member

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    Some of us just like to be busy!

    I also enjoy a nice chilled glass of white wine in the evening.. I've found that a nice very chilled glass of pinot grigio goes down really well after a long day of "extinguishing" your "true freedom of expression/thought".
     
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  7. Q-reeus Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Yeas we have all been treated to your (and fellow SF mods) many churned out wall of text replies. Busy indeed!
    Right. I'm sure there's some real meaning behind that bit. Other than wino snobbery. Don't - DON'T feel obliged to elaborate!
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Stand back he's gonna blow!

    Looks like I struck a nerve. Good luck learning math with all that hate in the way!

    Followed by another post not a day later. I guess not!

    This post reminds me of a list I made years ago; it was a way to tell if you were reading woo or not. The last on the list of signs you were reading woo was:
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    17) The Grand Trampling Exit. Often cranks, once they have realized that they are not going to get kudos and attaboys for their unconventional thinking, will make a "final post" that is usually along the lines of "you're all a bunch of idiots! I'm going to leave this once and for all, and deny you all the pleasure of my company. Instead I am going to post on a board where intelligent people have open minds!"

    Reading the Grand Trampling Exit, readers of the forum might be tempted to breathe a sigh of relief as the signal to noise ratio improves. However this relief is often short-lived. Cranks love attention, and thus more often than not they come back sometime later, often with a statement along the lines of "well, I just had to say one more . . ." or "I realized you wanted me to leave, so I'm going to stick around to get back at you!"
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    Entire list here:
    http://www.thescienceforum.com/general-discussion/40906-top-signs-you-reading-woo.html
     
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  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Ah, there it is.

    This thread should be renamed The Q-reeus Show.
     
  10. Q-reeus Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks, in an unintended way, for confirming my assessment. What you conveniently failed to quote in #665 says it all. No credible reply to the embarrassing for you link in #662.
    Expunging anything connected to it the predictable and only available face-saving option. Pompous coward.
    All your crank/woo etc. points linked to are propaganda pejoratives. Easily applied by anyone of any political/ideological persuasion, to their opponents.
    Worthless hack attack innuendo signifying such psyop tactic has to be employed as substitute for genuine counterargument.
     
  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    What a hypocrite. "Hey, stop using perjoratives, you ... you coward."
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Guess you haven't learned any math yet then. Sounds like all you have are insults. Not a good substitute for math in my experience.

    Didn't you say your last post was going to be . . . two posts ago?
     
  13. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Not an encouraging start to your post. It makes you sound unhinged, not quite in control of yourself. And it just gets worse after that.
    Is this your impolite way of asking whether I'd be so kind as to read your thread and comment on it?
    Link or it didn't happen.
    Which is it, then? Did I post and your majesty showed that I was incompetent, or did I not even try to post? Try to get your story straight, at least.
    You think billvon is being paid to talk to you and to tell you lies? Really? Who do you imagine is investing their money into paying people off to engage with you on this forum? And to what end?

    Do you think somebody is worried about what your writings, here on sciforums, might do to their vested interests? Do you think you're a threat to the Illuminati, or something?

    Don't you realise that you sound like a complete nut when you rant about conspiracies like this? Get some perspective, man. You have a brain. Why not use it for something productive?
    As far as I'm aware, none of the people you have mentioned have written anything on this forum that has supported mass murder or oppressive totalitarian domestic rule. Certainly, I have not.

    I therefore ask that you either attempt to support your libel, or else retract it. Please do that in your next post. Thank you.
    If you're still upset because we don't allow you to freely express your antisemitism here, find somewhere else to vent your spleen. We have higher moral standards here.
    Perspective, man! Do you really think that the revolting actual Orwellian 1984 triumph is going to start right here on sciforums?
    You're playing the role of "expected backlash" here, are you not? Vacuous polemics indeed.
    You're still here. You keep still being here. Methinks you protest too much.
     
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  15. Q-reeus Banned Valued Senior Member

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    • Q-reeus's previous libellous statements were not addressed in this post, as was requested by a site administrator.
    The more self-incriminating stuff like that quoted above you post, the better I like it. A public record. That may well come back to bite you one day. Just sayin.

    PS - regarding this bit:
    "Which is it, then? Did I post and your majesty showed that I was incompetent, or did I not even try to post? Try to get your story straight, at least."

    By splitting up a logically contiguous sequence into two parts, and pretending they are somehow separate thought streams, you think that can be passed off as a contradiction?! Ha ha ha ha. NO!
    Six weeks my 'puzzle' was open to all at SF to figure out. With clues thrown in every now and then to try and shorten the tension. To no avail. For you to pretend to have 'no interest' is too disingenuous for even your most avid SF sycophants to swallow and defend (or will I be surprised?). You were too scared/egotistical to risk displaying your cluelessness.
    To various others credit, they did take the risk, even though none were successful. Danshawen's genuinely unhinged response in #186 - later retracted somewhat, being typical of other's reactions to similar thought provoking threads I have started. Typically being buried in an avalanche of atavistic hostilities.

    Lesson - rocking the boat (be it in science/politics/ideology/history) will draw an outcry. Do so at considerable personal risk!
     
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  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yup. Q is building his resume.
    1. Be as obnoxious as possible. Form a long trail of vexatious posts, especially complaining about "free speech persecution".
    2. Get self banned. (requires a delicate touch - must be able to claim it was unwarranted).
    3. Go to other site(s).
    4. Refer to this dumpster fire to stroke ego.

    This is so '90s troll' retro.
     
  17. Q-reeus Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Someone else without enough balls or nous to have given it a try. I am of course referring to this one of several such 'Q' touchstone threads:
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/linear-momentum-conservation-puzzle.158261/
    Still, brown nosing loyalty is rewarded. Brownie points have accrued once more. Nice!
    Now, anyone else want to get back on topic and strain credulity by seriously suggesting 9-11 WTC tower collapses, 1, 2, or 7, could have actually generated what a host of competent witnesses reported - flowing rivers, and pools, of molten steel/iron for quite a few weeks after 9-11 events? See e.g. links in #630, #652. The Official Line reads - anyone, regardless of professional experience, who's claimed eyewitness testimony suggests the Official Story is a tissue of lies, is an imbecile or even outright unpatriotic!
    Followed by Stars and Stripes flag-waving and 'God Bless America'. Razzmatazz wins every time.
     
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  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Yep. And this allows him to struggle and bleed while he hangs on the cross of the evil moderators who are censoring the TRUTH!
     
  19. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Yep. It's been explained to you that that is molten aluminum, which looks just like molten steel. But since you literally have nothing else to offer, you are going to push that tired lie for years.
     
  20. Q-reeus Banned Valued Senior Member

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    When the risky gamble of labeling an ideological foe (me) 'math illiterate' blows up in one's face, resorting to 'martyr complex syndrome' typecasting/mudslinging is about all that's left. Wearisome.
     
  21. Q-reeus Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Cherry picking much? "A mistaken fireman' got it wrong? Such a blatant mischaracterization. Of eyewitness testimony from a host of responsible people actually onsite. Backed by thermal imaging device readings. The links to which I have given numerous times. And persistently ignored.
     
  22. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    None of which refutes what billvon said. It seems, you think firemen can divine that it's steel as opposed to aluminum.

    Q, grow up. You're acting like a child, sticking your tongue out and beating your little fists.
     
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  23. Q-reeus Banned Valued Senior Member

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    I could swear you are a sock of James R! Almost identical wording in parts. But really loyal sycophants are like that I guess.
     
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