World trade centre collapse, 9/11 conspiracy

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  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    This should be a cathartic moment for @psikeykackr - to realize that he is not qualified to judge whether others (let alone experts) are wrong.

    How can he critique any engineering if he is unable to handle basic grade school units and measurements? (If this is a simple, honest mistake he should consider the strong likelihood that his entire argument is a similarly simple, honest mistake. After all, how would he know if it wasn't?)

    It should cause him to rethink his raison d'etre as resting on a baseless foundation.

    It won't. He doesn't care. Trolls are too busy trolling to waste time getting things right.

    But it does serve as an extant example to readers that
    - he is not qualified to judge whether others (let alone experts) are wrong .
    - his whole raison d'etre rests on a baseless foundation.
    - grade school math escapes him.

    How does this unqualified troll warrant an audience at all?
     
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  3. David C On planet earth Registered Senior Member

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    Nope, just you being dumb.

    Nope. 1,102,292,769lbs "LOL"

    Nope. A KG is 2.20462lbs "LOL"

    One of the dumbest things I have ever seen. You've taken their Tonnage figure, incorrectly converted it to pounds. You've then incorrectly stated the value of a kilogram when we are dealing with large numbers. Then to compund your daft errors you've taken the incorrect total of pounds re-converted it to tons using your wrong kg to lbs number and arrived at a figure that is nothing to do with what was stated.

    It is actually one of the most absurd things I've ever seen.

    No, they stated a figure. Your moronic, needless and baffling conversion failures produced any discrepancy.

    They specified the height of the bulk, not the added maintenance areas and walkways which contributed to additional heights.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-the-twin-towers-fell/
    "With a mass of about 500,000 tons (5 x 10(to the power of) 8 kilograms), a height of about 1,350 ft. (411 meters), and the acceleration of gravity at 9.8 meters per second 2, he came up with a potential energy total of 1019 ergs (1012 Joules or 278 Megawatt-hours). "

    Run along now, you just made one of the most embarrassing fails possible. And try not to pull Billvon up because he missed a zero on his post - the point is the same!
     
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  5. psikeyhackr Live Long and Suffer Valued Senior Member

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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Excuses.

    Like it or not, it's what it is. It doesn't absolve you of shooting off your mouth and being dead wrong about such a simple thing. The fact is, you didn't bother to do your homework to find out why you got an answer that didn't match with the published answer.

    And that is why you are not qualified to judge those do spend a little more than a few minutes reading an article.
     
  8. psikeyhackr Live Long and Suffer Valued Senior Member

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    NIST NCSTAR1 1-3
     
  9. David C On planet earth Registered Senior Member

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    What!? In your face, they quoted the KILOGRAM total and your moronic maths was needless, baffling and wrong. Admit it, be a man.

    Conspiracy theorists simply never admit their failures, it's why they are able to believe the bollocks that they believe. In your case, nobody knows what the hell you believe since you never state it!
     
  10. psikeyhackr Live Long and Suffer Valued Senior Member

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    So you just make shit up?

    Provide a link regarding these "walkways".

    https://heightpedia.com/twin-towers-height/

    Make up some more bullshit, it's more amusing than your inability to do grade school math.
     
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  11. David C On planet earth Registered Senior Member

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    No, I looked at some pretty pictures. Making shit up is your strong point.

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-W0RbxKJ1...XVC8rPm1fpM/s1600/4507291221_a051c28735_z.jpg

    Your sorry attempt to show scientific-american errors was actually a complete mess and here you are, afraid to admit it and not even understanding the completely idiotic thing that you did.

    You took a given number. You screwed up converting it to pounds, even though the article showed how many kilograms. You then screwed up the pounds to kilograms by simplifying it. Why would you even do this when they gave the actual figure. You then multiplied figure 1 by figure 2 to get an idiotic wrong total when you already had been given the correct total. Then like a clown you attempt to suggest I made errors in my maths when you made errors in reality that are off the scale fail.

    Run along now, you are a big embarrassment. You claim that conspiracy theorists are all wrong and the original account is wrong, then offer diddly-squat to show/prove what you think happened. You are a time wasting troll.
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. Metric ton is correct. And they gave the units in that example.

    From the dictionary:


    met·ric ton
    /ˈmetrik ˈtən/

    noun
    1. a unit of weight equal to 1,000 kilograms (2,205 lb).

    Perhaps learning more math/science would help you understand such things?
     
  13. psikeyhackr Live Long and Suffer Valued Senior Member

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    This is hysterical. So many sources are for shit!
    I already provided you with an NIST quote for what they meant by a TON.

    https://911memorial.org/learn/resources/world-trade-center-history

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_(1973–2001)

    https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2004/EricChen.shtml

    You guys just engage in knee jerk arguments. 12 to 18 feet of "walkways." LOL
     
  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    psikeyhackr note to self:

    A foot is 12 inches.

    Not metres, tonnes, furlongs or cubits.

    You're welcome, and carry on.
     
  15. David C On planet earth Registered Senior Member

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    Doubling down on his idiotic failure. This is what conspiracy clowns do.

    Didn't the pretty picture show you some extra height that wasn't bulk? Have you ever looked at the plans. They're online and show the white angled area at the top is effectively just fascia:

    d81cf94b3ab55fff9f02880759503b20.jpg (1028×1416) (archpaper.com)

    Can you see all the maintenance bits in this picture below? Can you see the white angled pieces at the top that the plans show are not part of the bulk.

    https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/kaUe...p-578695525-crop-5b724e9946e0fb0050eab3a0.jpg

    Troll.
     
  16. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    David C - feeding

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  17. David C On planet earth Registered Senior Member

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    Kind of, in an "arse-kicking all around the room" sort of way.
     
  18. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Careful you might be kicking the most intelligent part

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    What is clear to me is that your bullying and at the same time cowardly-subservient-to-almighty Judaism's repressive leftist dictates, is a piece of crock.
    Entirely lacking from yours and oft quarreling 'fellow' SF Leftist-Marxist mods is any semblance of objective fact. 'Antisemitism' is just code for repression of freedom of speech hence anti-freedom of thought. In a truly free society, any and all political/ideological 'truths' aught to be freely criticized.

    Very much NOT the case for SF or more generally in supposedly 'free' 'democracies', correctly characterized by .e.g Aldus Huxley as 'oligarchies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy) in fact'.

    A truth denied by the cowardly leftist conformists like you. So go ahead and life ban me for daring to point out the extreme hypocrisy of Israel's and fellow Jew financiers/backers mass-murdering agendas. Who financed and indeed created ISIS/ISIL/whatever alternate label, as engines of ME destabilization/destruction. The latest (ca 29/12/2021) instance of the Jewish States expansionist aggression being of of uncriticized-in-'Western' MSM, bombing of Syrian port facilities:
    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-...ia-port-israeli-missile-attack/6511640697216/
    That on top of announced plans to create ~ 8000 Jewish settler homes in the stolen Golan heights - actually Syrian not Israeli territory!
    And of course the incessant pressure by Israel for the decimation of Iran, preferably by yet again expending goy military personnel of the US and 'allies'.
    Just like was the case for their tragically successful campaign to decimate (via US and so-called 'coalition-of-the-willing' partners, as proxy), then potential rival Iraq in 2003 onward. We can all see how well that has turned out for Iraqi citizens. 'Liberation'? NOT. Likewise for ravaged citizens of Afghanistan, Libya etc. A trail of destruction always follows Israel instigated wars of 'liberation'. That 'miraculously' always benefits Israel, and no-one else.

    I do NOT wish you and SF political/ideological fellow-travelers a happy and prosperous new year for 2022.
     
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  21. Q-reeus Banned Valued Senior Member

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    double post
     
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  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I have to ask - do you think that such hateful ranting makes people think more of your argument? Because it sort of does the opposite. You come across as incoherent and confused. Surely you can do better than that.
    I have noted lately that the right wing's one consistent political message is "fuck you." You seem to hew to this message as well.
     
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    Juden raus!

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