Would you be a cannibal if you ate an animal that ate a human?

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  1. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    I know this is a question that probably doesn't come up very often. But I watched a movie that showed human bodies being fed to hogs. At some point those same hogs might be butchered and the meat sold. I suppose if you never knew about the hogs eating the human bodies, no harm would actually be done. However, I am pretty sure I'd get real sick if I ever found out I ate an animal that ate a human. As to the long term psychological problems I can't really say, but I know I'd never be the same again.
     
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  3. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Basically no. Hog meat is not human meat even if it fed on humans.
     
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  5. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    On doing some more research I found the following.

    Okay, technically you wouldn't be considered a cannibal. But just knowing you ate an animal that ate a human would produce some very unusual feelings. I'd rather not find out first hand myself. Now let's make it a little more personal and say that animal ate one of your family members and then you ate it?
     
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  7. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No more so than if you ate apples from a tree growing in a graveyard.

    We're all recycled parts. Up by the dropzone there's a sewage treatment plant where fecal material is sterilized and dried, then laid out on big empty fields. They they plant grass. Then sheep graze on it. Then people eat the sheep and use the wool. Thus getting their waste returned to them in a much more useful form.
     
  8. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Of course everything gets recycled, even if you were to feed directly on human flesh. After all meat is meat. I guess what I'm looking for is the feelings people have about it and to what degree does it affect us, the closer we come to it.

    I suppose you could rationalize that you don't really know that the animal you just ate, ever ate a human. But what if that rationalization was taken away from you. Someone made a video of the animal eating a human and then of that animal being killed and prepared for a dinner that you watched yourself eating?
     
  9. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    We could conduct a controlled experiment.

    Bears occasionally ingest people and then those bears have to be destroyed.

    Bear meat is quite edible.

    We invite a cross section of people to a wild game dinner.

    Only after they have eaten a sumptuous spread of a variety of wild meats and organic greens, followed by a berry dessert and of course wine with dinner, would we tell them that THEY had been the experiment.

    The bear meat had been the one who had eaten a hapless tourist and the body had been quite digested by the bear, only cloth bits and hardware remaining in the colon.

    I wager that they will never get the wine and berry stains out of the table cloth and you would have a very accurate accounting of how people 'feel'.

    Of course, do this at the annual wild game dinner held in Whitehorse and I expect the results would be quite different than if you held the same event in a southern city.

    http://monologues.co.uk/Robert_Service/LawYukon.htm

    Bears that become habituated to landfills are known as 'garbage bears' and no one would willingly eat such an animal. Given the trash that our undiscriminating species ingests, it would not be my choice to knowingly eat a bear that had eaten a human. Should such an event transpire, I think I would throw back a couple of shots of strong liquor to kill any pathogens but I don't reckon I'd lose my stomach contents. :bugeye:

    You do come up with some strange topics, KJ. Are you still taking strong medications?
     
  10. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, but only about half as much as I was the first two weeks. Speaking of bears, have you ever tried bear meat? As an omnivore they can eat garbage as well as any human. Cannibalism is an interesting state of mind, I think most people would not consider it, yet there are those that don't hesitate to say they would do it if it was the only way they could survive.

    There was a time when I found some interesting information on the Usenets about current cannibalism in the world today. I used to have some downloaded recipes on how to prepare humans for consumption. Also, there was talk about black market on aborted fetuses. Anyway I lost all that info to a hard disk crash and those Usenet groups don't seem to exist anymore. Internet censorship is alive and well.
     
  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I think the video of the animal eating someone would be what really bothered me.
     
  12. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I have.

    Invited for dinner on the Yukon River, upstream from Dawson, I was sitting down to a laden table as the roast, gravy and Yorkshire puddings arrived, to accompany the garden grown veggies and home-baked bread.

    I was a guest, unknown to the hostess, and she burst out in a worried tone, "I must tell you, that's a bear roast, a Black Bear."

    "Wonderful!", I replied. "I have heard nothing but the best of Black Bear meat and never yet had the opportunity to taste it."

    That was one of the finest tasting meals ever and the bear meat, cooked with slow, moist heat was fork tender and she had used the same seasonings one would cook pork with. With the Yorkshires and gravy, it was as fine as prime rib.

    It was a young "Berry Bear", and with small children in the family and living some distance from town and no road access, they had harvested the animal and added it to their winter stores.

    (Grizzly bears, in these parts, eat a lot more fish and meat than blacks, and while some eat the meat of the grizzly, I prefer not to.)
     
  13. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Could be someone that donated their body to science.
     
  14. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    You make that sound really good. I doubt I will ever get the opportunity to try it. But now I would like to.

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  15. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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  16. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    If that were true there would be no carnivores.
     
  17. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Could you explain that a bit more, I'm not understanding what you just said.
     
  18. Search & Destroy Take one bite at a time Moderator

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    I thought this thread would be about those big fleshy crabs that live on the bottom of the Ganges. KilljoyKlown, travel to India and eat some Ganges crab. Try not to get real sick though

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  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    It was a bit tongue-in-cheek.
    What I was trying to convey is that your thread title is similar to asking something like: "Would you be a herbivore if you ate an animal that ate plants?"

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    I guess you could unwillingly be eating a small amount of human flesh if you ate an animal and, especially, it's gut-content that fed off a human not too long ago, but that'd hardly make you a cannibal.

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    Perhaps a more interesting question would be:
    "Would a human that killed an animal, that ate a human, in order to eat the human flesh in it's stomach be a cannibal?"
    Or:
    "Would an animal that kills herbivores in order to eat the plant-material in their stomachs be a herbivore?"
    I'm not aware of the existence of either, by the way

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  20. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    I've never been real big on crab, but I cringe at the thought of anyone eating Ganges crab. However in the world did you make that connection?

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  21. Search & Destroy Take one bite at a time Moderator

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    To be explicit - the millions of human bodies burnt and their remains end up on the bottom of the Ganges where they are eaten by crabs that grow fat. Those big crabs are caught and eaten. This is probably the grandest and oldest "cannibalism" you describe in the OP on earth.
     
  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Could be. It would still bother me.
     
  23. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    For a brief interval in my life, I enjoyed those rare occasions when my more affluent friends would treat us to such 'delicacies' as escargot, King Crab or Lobster. Probably it was the garlic butter as much as the seafood, lol...

    Then my step-dad explained that he does not eat 'bottom-feeders' or scavengers of any kind.

    A closer examination of what my food ate prior to my ingesting it has caused me to seriously rethink what I put on my plate.

    About the only seafood that I still enjoy on occasion are the Nova Scotia Sea Scallops, they being filter feeders who mostly eat plankton.
     

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