And if you do, at least claim you do, I will show to you for what reasons it is an incorrect conception. And in the end the reasons for which I know that we do not have any. A conception, is basically a complete understanding of a concept/object and hence a complete knowledge of how it works. And I would suggest everyone who acts like they know what freewill is Viz. those who attempt to assert it's factuality IE it's 'actual' existence to stop. For how can you claim it exists if you cannot even prove it does. Ridiculous, I am disgusted by this forum. But then again it isn't a philosophy forum, just a science forum. By the way this is basically me challenging almost the entire forum.