Young Men Lead Surge in Viagra Use

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  1. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Young Men Lead Surge in Viagra Use

    Research Shows Threefold Boost Among Men Aged 18-45

    By Sid Kirchheimer
    WebMD Medical News Reviewed By Michael Smith, MD
    on Wednesday, August 04, 2004
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    Aug. 5, 2004 -- Erectile dysfunction apparently isn't just an older man's problem anymore. Young men, even some who are college-aged, are leading the surge in Viagra use.

    New research indicates that the use of Viagra skyrocketed 312% among men aged 18-45 between 1998 and 2002. There's also been a twofold increase -- 216% -- among men between ages 45 and 55, says Tom Delate, PhD, whose research analyzed data on medical insurance claims by some 5 million patients across the country.

    "We tried to see if these patients had an underlying medical condition and we couldn't identify one in the majority," says Delate, director of research for Express Scripts, Inc., a St. Louis-based firm that conducts pharmaceutical research for insurers, managed care organizations, and other companies.

    "What we found was that problems typically seem to start in a man's 40s and affected only about 40% of the men in these age groups."

    Enhancer Rather Than Remedy?

    Does this suggest a growing trend in using the drug for recreational rather than medical purposes -- such as for a sex enhancer?

    "That would be my guess," Delate tells WebMD.

    While Delate notes that men older than age 56 continue to fill the lion's share of prescriptions for Viagra, his study -- published in the August issue of the International Journal of Impotence -- also shows a 13% increase in Viagra prescriptions for women between ages 18 and 45. While some studies indicate that Viagra can increase sex drive and satisfaction levels in women, especially before menopause, this is not a consistent finding.

    Delate also finds that two in three prescriptions came from primary care physicians, rather than urologists.

    "One suggestion about what may be going on: It could be that patients are coming in, asking for the drug, and the prescriber wants to please the patients and meet their expectations," he tells WebMD. "It could be the primary care physician doesn't have a lot of time to spend with them, and may not be asking questions."

    Better Performance, Even if Not Needed

    Viagra was the first oral drug approved for erectile dysfunction, which transiently affects nearly all men at some point, but occurs on a continued basis in as many as 20 million Americans. Erectile dysfunction can occur at any age, but typically affects men after age 50. Since Viagra, two other erectile dysfunction medications -- Levitra and Cialis -- have been approved by the FDA.

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  3. OverTheStars Registered Senior Member

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    I know 3 young men under the age of 21 who need to use Viagra.

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  5. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    It could also be that the physicians are men and it's just a wink-wink nudge-nudge kind of "consultation." The same way male judges and male jurors tend to go easy on male drunk drivers.
    "Need" to use it? An almost 100 percent sure-fire cure for erectile dysfunction in teenagers is to wait a day -- or even a few hours. Teenage boys' glands generate testosterone and semen in such prodigious volume that feeling like they're going to explode if they don't get laid immediately is a far more common problem.

    This has got to be a case of performance anxiety, which is also more often than not the cause of alleged "erectile dysfunction" in young and middle-aged adult men. Our culture has gotten us so fixated on sex that instead of fantasizing about it or making hopeful plans for it tomorrow night, like we did when I was young, men now actually worry about it! Worry is a big sexual inhibitor, so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's really sad that even teenagers are victims of it.

    Still, if there is dysfunction and it's mental/emotional as it is 99 percent of the time and not medical, there are lots of things the woman on the scene can do to get the man straightened out in his head and elsewhere. If she's not doing that, then all this "sex education" is a collossal waste of time.

    It's more likely that she just doesn't care and men need to face that fact. Women in most age groups aren't anywhere near as driven by their sexual instincts as we are. If it doesn't happen tonight it's because it honest-to-the-goddess really doesn't matter one bit to them. Women under about age 25 who behave as though they are real sexpots are usually:

    1.Succumbing to social pressure, advertising, and pop culture, and behaving the way they think they're supposed to;
    2. Trying out something to see if it's fun or interesting;
    3. Affecting an artificial persona for the perverse fun of driving men crazy;
    4. Doing what a lot of women have done for thousands of years: giving men what they want in order to get men to give them what they want. If this is simply a woman giving someone she loves something that she enjoys ok but isn't crazy about, knowing that a satisfied lover is a sane and devoted lover, then it's fine. But if it's a tool to get gifts and money because it's still not as easy for a woman to get ahead economically in our supposedly enlightened culture, then it's just sad.
     
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  7. dixonmassey Valued Senior Member

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    Society is doomed to go to the hell since the very day when women have decided that they have the right to have an orgasm. Unrealistic (physiologically) demands give rise to anxiety, anxiety give rise to selfdoubt, selfdoubt dive rise to the overuse of viagra or even abstinence (on the part of more fragile males). For example, frequency of having sex among young Japanes fell dramatically over the past 30 years. It seems that Liberated women will be liberated from men completely if things will go the way they go.
     
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    In my limited and humble experience it is not having an erect penis for a longer of time that will make a woman come easier.
     
  9. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    No. I'm sorry, but Japanese women are extremely submissive. In any way they will be completely liberated from men. Maybe not even in a whole century!

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  10. dixonmassey Valued Senior Member

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    Even submissive women can get on man's nerves. As far I understand, young women usually have not found the man to be submissive too (yet). And surely those young women scare hell out of the young japanese men who prefer pretty much anything to sex. Japanese contraceptive industry is taking loses. They build rubber/etc. plants in anticipation of the "normal" sex frequency. Things went different way.
     
  11. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    If I had some Viagra, it would just sit and collect dust alongside that big box of condoms I bought years ago.

    Oh well, on the bright side, I have a zero percent chance of catching a venereal disease.
     
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    What Third World religious dictatorship did you crawl out from to have been taught such an outrageous lie about human sexuality?

    Women are perfectly well equipped with the physiology to have orgasms. Any man who gives a damn about his partner as a human being with feelings, rather than a vessel to satisfy his own selfish needs, can make sure that a woman whom he's gotten well acquainted with physically has an orgasm most of the time, if not absolutely every time. It requires some creativity, adaptability, and the willingness to balance his own pleasure against that of someone he loves. Admittedly these values are not universal even in our own "englightened" Western nations, but -- to paraphrase one of my postings on another thread earlier today -- if they are not at least common enough among men that we each know somebody who can tell us about them, or if the majority of women are so bashful that they refuse to teach us themselves, then this whole Sex Education thing has been a bloody scam.
    I'll buy that part of your argument, if you drop the part about the "unrealistic demands" coming from our women. Our women don't even want to have sex as often as we do, so for them to ask, "If we're gonna do this thing to make you happy when I'd just as soon be sleeping off an exhausting day of taking care of your children, would it be too much trouble for you to let me have a little bit of fun too," is hardly "demanding." The unrealistic demands were created by the media. Everything from MTV videos to vitamin ads makes us believe that we're supposed to be able to rut like a crazed weasel, multiple times in one day, long past adolescence. And these same people who have taken over our adult education carefully avoid telling us that the average time of intercourse required for a woman to reach orgasm is five minutes, whereas the average time of intecourse required for a man to reach orgasm is... well it's sure nowhere near five minutes. In other words, either before, during, or after your Class I plain vanilla sex act, you've gotta do something else to give your partner the same pleasure you get. Is this really rocket science, something too difficult for the average American male to understand???
    You illustrate my point perfectly. Both the one about sex education not being an unqualified success and the one about you having learned everything you know about sex in some backwater like Japan. Did it ever cross your testosterone-crazed brain that perhaps women simply don't want to have sex every single damn night? That the reason the frequency of intercourse in Japan has dropped is that women finally get a vote?

    This is not something that has changed. Very few women outside the age range of 25-35 have a sex drive that makes them amenable to doing it every night, and it's a much narrower range within that decade in which they actually want to do it every night rather than simply being okay with it because it makes their husband happy. The Japan of even one generation ago was one of those societies with Neolithic ethics, where marital sex would just about fall under the definition of rape in today's world.

    Man want sex, woman no can say no. Woman say no, man hit woman and have sex anyway. End of problem.
     
  13. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    Like I always say, "Ever since I gave up hope....
    I feel better!"

    Back when I used to try, I was very confident. Confident that women wouldn't be interested.

    But I quit trying a few years ago. As Homer Simpson said, "I dunno Marge, trying is he first step toward failure."
     
  14. dixonmassey Valued Senior Member

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    This is not something that has changed. Very few women outside the age range of 25-35 have a sex drive that makes them amenable to doing it every night, and it's a much narrower range within that decade in which they actually want to do it every night rather than simply being okay with it because it makes their husband happy. The Japan of even one generation ago was one of those societies with Neolithic ethics, where marital sex would just about fall under the definition of rape in today's world. Man want sex, woman no can say no. Woman say no, man hit woman and have sex anyway. End of problem.

    I am not quite qualified to judge if a woman is capable of getting orgasm each time she makes love to a loving man. In my opinion it's simply imposible. But may be medical science has different opinion about it. As for sex in Japan, you've missed the point: Japanese young MEN avoid sex NOT women. Studies suggests it's because young men feel uncompetitive (sexwise) with Hollywood/etc. movie lovers. In their (men) opinions women expect nothing less than what they see in movies. Men feel they cannot deliever it so they prefer playing computer games to having sex (and probable humiliations).
     
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  15. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    It's not impossible for her to have one about 95 percent of the time, especially if the man is considerate and doesn't expect her to do it when she's tired or anxious, or when she's at an age when most sensible people of both sexes aren't trying to set a world record for number of times in a month. Take the word of your elder on this, son.
    Well then please excuse my previous insult. It's not you I'm scolding but once again, the media. It is the media that has planted these unrealistic images in people's minds. As has been pointed out on this thread and others, women absolutely do not have the attitudes about sex that are portrayed in movies, advertisements, and music videos. Being loved, respected, and treated thoughtfully are far more important to them than the "quality" of sex, whatever the hell that might be. Any mature, proud woman would much rather make love to that kind of a man than to one who is "really good" at sex, whatever the hell that might be. And as has also been pointed out, women absolutely do not care so much about the size of the organ or its degree of inflation, because that has virtually zero effect on their enjoyment of the act or their ability to reach a climax. Again, you can take the word of your elder on this too.

    You young men are being misled by Hollywood and the pharmaceutical companies. You're smart enough to know better. Shame on you.

    Talk to your women instead of watching TV and let them tell you what they want. And how often they want it!
     

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